anyone else confirm that running with asmap drops knots node counts? looks like they are performing a Sybil attack and the numbers are much closer to 2-3%

going to try asmap today and see if I notice a change

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look at the curve, its smoothly increasing with almost no variance.

fake af

I believe it.. Even some of the major mining pools have switched to knots

Which ones?

Can you tell us which pools switched to knots?

don’t think it’s real.. seems fake to me

Kirk getting shot in the neck really energized the plebs into action.

What’s asmap?

asmap.org

Network level detail

https://asmap.org/

@b10c bat signal

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Start9 commented in their recent server sales and estimate of people downloading knots. That’s the best data point we have.

πŸ˜‚ desperate

what do you mean? asmap is ideal for detecting these kinds of attacks. if they are mostly nodes spawned by the same entity it would be good to know that. its not *that* hard to spawn thousands of nodes on the network.

Knots is a fork of Core. It has everything Core has. Not more or less susceptible to Sybil attack as Core

I think you misunderstood what the post was about, that is not what I'm saying

Core is very susceptible to Sybil attacks. Check out eclipse attacks. Asmap feature was added to try and mitigate, but it's not perfect.

I'm not sure you know what a Sybil attack is

The number of Core nodes has not increased recently, hence there is no pro-Core Sybil attack

Actually, now I realise the first line of my note just above was too insulting and ill-informed

There are enough assholes in this debate, without me making it worse 😜.

Yes, im sure im the misinformed one. Please define Sybil attack for me so that I can be better.

Desperate? Sybil is the main criticism for counting nodes. Node counts are meaningless because of it. Only hashrate matters. It's the whole point of PoW.

Do the nodes advertise if they are full/archive/SPV nodes?

And can those claims be verified? I.e. if a node claims to be an archival node, can we ask it for an arbitrary block?

I ask because I guess 'fake' nodes could be easily set up quickly and cheaply, where they are missing some functionality or they delegate to full nodes if needed

I haven't looked at the bitcoin network code in awhile but I would imagine it would or at least could be smart enough to do those kinds of things.

I can take a look.

Delusional if you believe that. And in any case what's the problem, filters don't work bro πŸ˜‚

i am running asmap and am seeing a drop in knots nodes now. why is it delusional? why do you believe node counts outright?

Annecdotal evidence from plebs across the board and local meetup groups.

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I see this on my node after configuring asmap:

β€œ41791 clearnet peers are mapped to 3618 ASNs with 13 peers being unmapped”

If I’m understanding that message correctly that’s a larger than one order of magnitude decrease in peers.

its possible your node is counting ipv6 addressess which mine doesn't have access to?

just a guess when looking at the code

I don’t know.

I’m using lastest asmap from github repo. That might be important information.

Where is the proof of 2-3% outside AWS?