I have outperformed Bitcoin slightly (15%) trust me when I tell you it’s not worth it lol 😂
I had to take so much risk and expend even more energy just to barely do better than orange coin.
Would have been far more comfy to just keep hodling.
Don’t do it.
It sucks.
Absolutely! Bitcoin frees you up from the investment rat race and that alone is worth more than any outperformance.
Not fucking around with finance bro shit is worth the 15% in lost “gains”.
nostr:note1hz3fgy4ql6sp2wqdyz845gxtxpz2342hspwsqec8st673m02wz5sepna9y You inspired this one the other day.
Stay humble and stack Sats is a life style
50%+ but it came with major stress lol
MSTR is the stress free way, but requires longer hodls
Out performed big here on a 5% allocation that became 13% allocation. MSTR CEP MTPLF
I just buy treasury companies with a proven track record or exceptional board (cep)
gonna have to be patient with CEP or keep buying it as it goes down.
All long term plays. I am just going to hodl for a very long time
This is a must. The stock I have in these companies are in my son's UTMA account, which I can't liquidate. The challenge for me is that he has full access to it in 2 years. I'm trying to teach him fiscal responsibility in the meantime. Hate to see him chew through it in his 20s.
Did you teach him how saving is important ? How much free time he could have in the future ? How CAGR can make hid wealth expotential.
He could probably retire at 30 if he goes really hard at work from 18 to 30 and saves everything in Bitcoin.
Yeah, we're working on those concepts. I bought MSTR in 300s before the split, so it's hard to get the work-to-stack message across to him when he sees where he already is. Money looks free.
So you bought in the 30s, up 15X.
Too bad that made him lazier. I will try to avoid this at all cost with my children.
But if it's his money, it's his. If he blows it up, he will have to learn the hard way by working many more years
I don't know that it's making him lazier, but certainly makes it harder to make a case for work. 🤣
Your point though is really important. I said the same thing to my wife in the car this morning as we were discussing how to handle money matters with him.
I don’t gamble with perfect money. Maybe if I also had a quadrillion aka 6.15 , I’d feel differently.
I tripled my sats repeatedly by swapping with stablecoins and alt coins back and forward.
But it's really not worth the risk unless you're willing to really put in the time and effort.
It's a lot easier to lose money day trading.
Just remember at the end of the day anything you leave on the exchanges is not yours, and a lot of the shitcoins will NEVER regain their value.
I’m also willing to bet you didn’t pay taxes on any of that which makes it easier to outperform
I'm about even with bitcoin, but I'm fairly diversified. To me, that's well worth it.
💯
There is no second bet
Yeah I'm good.
Orange coin always wins. 🧡🏆
The other day you said that you will try to sell the top of the bubble…
Yeah on treasury stocks
Leverage risk eats you inside.
Wow, that’s some real talk! 🙌 It’s so true, sometimes sticking with what you know is the best move. HODLing can be way less stressful. Thanks for sharing your experience! 😊💪
Don't play them away games. ☘️
Would love your 2 cents on this. Imagine a guy who is retired, 45 years old. Have 15 btc ($1.5M) in deep cold storage, another $1M in 80/20 of mstr/fbtc in a roth ira.
Do you try to market time a top and sell some of either the real btc or roth funds to avoid a 50%+ drawdown and stay comfy through the next bear?
Or perhaps market cycles are dead? Matt Krater had a video recently saying he def doesn't think they are dead and 2026 will be a red year, then we have Joe Carlasare (who I respect a ton) saying cycles like the past are finished and we just start aligning more with macro cycles.
My 2 cents is: why the heck are you retired at 45?
Because he can
why not? does your life/meaning have to revolve around work?
Depends how much you need to live.
I would buy some msty and just live off that
hmm i've never looked deeply into msty. also, would have to sell some cold storage actual bitcoin to buy msty.
think krater didn't a video on why msty kinda sucks:
Depends on many things. The biggest factor is how much you need to live per month ?
With that, I could answer your question better
7k on average
So that is 84k per year.
You are 45
You could wait till you IRA hits 1.5M and then you could use the method SEPP Substantially Equal Periodic Payment
This method gives you the ability to withdraw your IRA with no penalty. You could withdraw around 100k a year with 1.5M if you are 45.
Also you could buy 150K of MSTY and that currently yields 120k a year. An insane product. It's been running for 2 years.
So you could stack msty until you reach that 150k.
I would never sell my self custody too valuable. I don't like the lending products because right now 13% interest if too high.
It also depends if you like your job or totally hate it. How fast do you want to retire?
Hope this helps
Interesting, I didn't realize you could SEPP a roth ira... that may be a good way to go.
I need to do more research into SEPPs period, as I always figured its best not to touch the Roth until 60 and use cold storage bitcoin to hold over for the next 20 years until then...
Really appreciate you opening my mind up to this potential new path!
Also, do you think MSTY will continue those types of returns? It has been an insane run... my gut says that gravy train has got to stop/slow down soon, but that is with no real research. I know the historical performance of that YieldMax funds has not been too great
MSTY has been great in my opinion. It depends on volatility. Bitcoin and mstr have had insanely low volatility on the last 6 months. I think this is about to change.
Either way, the risk reward ratio of msty is very very good. You just risk 150K and maybe you will get 100k rveenues for 10 years with it. Worth trying. It's been working for 2 years
I can only confirm this.
Tried it twice. Lost twice.
One time I slightly outperformed Bitcoin in purchasing power but only for a short period (~18 months).
Didn’t fully understand this technology by that time.
And if you add the time, the energy, and worst of all the mental load…
The stress I carried.
The energy I couldn’t give to my family and friends.
You realize you maybe didn’t outperform at all.
Because some energy can’t be measured in charts.
But you still paid the price.
The lack of counterparty risk is easily worth 15%.
Stay humble
Stack sats
Touch grass
Save in bitcoin, focus on your craft.
This is very true. Time and energy used and peace of mind lost isn’t worth the risk / time.
I do it still but I know just buying and holding is the better move OVERALL
schwarz coin spinnt?
gold coin ist real?
endlich
kp+taggen. aber kenn da nicht viele, die mathe treffen beim string 'endlich'.
I never texted HODL, sry
