i work in lists of 3s, so here’s a few for nostr.

solve real problems for people within these use cases:

1. human and agent interaction and transaction

2. private and public micro-communities

3. creator-friendly distribution

while maximizing nostr’s differentiators:

1. high-agency identity

2. built-in micropayments

3. highly-connected app ecosystem

which will increase to abundance:

1. the amount of information

2. the quality of information organization

3. the number of autonomous agents on the network

which allows us to state:

“nostr is where people and their agents learn and get stuff done.”

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I like this framework for thinking.

Struggling with the word “agents” in this context

But hey, just a while ago I asked someone what they meant with v4v

Perhaps the best example is a DVM. An automated system (some might call some more advanced ones AI; why not, the term is all but meaningless now anyway), which is capable of going out and doing tasks to respond to prompts by users (or, possibly, other agents). You could have an agent, for instance, go make you reservations for dinner on your behalf. Unlike an LLM, it's not just giving you feedback, but actually taking your input and using it to take action elsewhere.

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The "agents" 😉 😂 :

Physical robots and non-physical AI-agents having some degree of autonomy (centered around a nostr accounts and a stack of bitcoin oriented BTC/LN/ordinals/bitvm/fedimint/etc. wallets and keys?) yet also being synced and owned by a master key controlled by their human owner/operator?

Nostr giving agents and robots a "soul" or "personality" while the rest is more of logistics -- being able to leverage external AI-clusters for reasoning etc.

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Great list!

Maybe I need to come up with my own list of 4 things of this for my own stuff

I work on list of 3's

1. Water heater thermostat went out. Replaced.

2. Refrigerator defrost sensor quit working. Had a young appliance man repair it. He did a good job. I liked him.

3. Feeling good. Took a shower. Water pressure went to 0 during shower. Well pressure switch quit. Replaced. Went well no pun intended.

Gonna work a little today. Then watch some 🏀.

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Is it more powerful to switch the ordering?

"people and their agents learn and get stuff done on nostr"

Though I'm tempted to use the New Urbanist terms "live, work, and play". Nostr is the cyber third space

If we can solve the ability to onboard entire creator communities with little friction, Nostr will experience growth like never before. We might have some tools for this now, but none of them work well enough for your average person to use. These apps and services don't need to be *better* than their legacy alternatives, they just need to function as well as what Nostr is attempting to replace. Once apps work, and actually work well, the *better* part of the equation writes itself with a portable digital social identity. Until then, we're just setting people up for failure again and again.

I’m a creator, high on my list are:

1. Ability to schedule posts (including image uploads)

2. easier way to collect metrics like follower count, engagement, post views.

3. Tools for media editing

I can help with some of these:

1. https://shipyard.pub/ schedules posts

1a. You can upload the image anytime as the inline image shown is just a link. A good site (one of many) is https://nostr.build/ there are free or paid options

2. The concept of NOSTR is inherently different, it's not better or worse, just different. Understanding this difference will reduce your concerns here.

3. No advice, sorry.

1. Shipyard sucks, I’ve tried it. Very buggy, have tinfoil in my nsec and I have to divert from my preferred client.

1a. Nostr.build only supports manual uploads, and perhaps paid api uploads. I already pay for Primal, so I’d like to make use of their server, but it it has no api/automated upload option. I don’t want to use legacy sites like imgur.

2. This is what people pay good money for on social media like instagram, knowing how your posts perform is valuable information.

I guess a creator “sells” these data to sponsors and companies to convince them to support his work, right?

Do you think that by getting direct support by the community using #zaps can decrease the need for sponsorship and similar?

I use shipyard a lot (when posting daily GMs while on holiday), it's almost always worked perfectly for me. If you have issues, the great thing about NOSTR is you can tell the developer and they'll fix them. I believe nostr:nprofile1qyxhwumn8ghj7e3h0ghxjme0qyd8wumn8ghj7urewfsk66ty9enxjct5dfskvtnrdakj7qpql2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqta478g built this. Let him know what you want.

As for manual uploads, they were a revelation for me, it's what other platforms do, but it's hidden. NOSTR is a protocol, not a platform, company or algorithm, seeing how things really work is definitely a plus for me. Primal definitely hides this from you.

Primal is great, but it hides the NOSTR protocol from you. Think of it as more of an onboarding tool than a final destination.

2. I don't disagree with your point,

At the start of the last century, drivers complained that their new cars weren't producing manure when they replaced their horse drawn carriages with them. Nobody tried to fix that problem. Imperfect stats is a inherently an unsolvable problem for the most part.

If I create a npub and don't follow anybody and only use it to view posts, it remains undetected. I have maintained my privacy. My privacy, however comes at the cost of your metrics.

An open protocol based on #value4value may be a better long term option for you. You might find that being paid, peer to peer by zaps gives a much more visceral experience.

If it isn't, then the existing platforms do what they do extremely well. We're not necessarily trying to replicate those models.

Would be great if I didn’t have to switch clients..

One day, you'll look back at that post and laugh.

Switching clients is the best part. If you don't like how a client does something you switch to a different one or build your own.

There's a fun saying on here, if you're not using at least 4 clients on NOSTR, you're doing it wrong 😂

It's a joke, but there is a serious side to it.

Switching clients currently exposes your nsec, so there’s that..

Also, I’m not against using multiple clients, but I pay for 10GB of primal storage, so I’m not keen on also paying for a Nostr.build subscription just to be able to use their api.

From the browser you can use a key signer like nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm or nostr:npub16uvg7mx3l97z8phfesl8rxj2vf82vn82hp9daala0egj45ynr8mstn0vkc signer like this:

https://shop.lnbits.com/product/nostr-signing-device

But sometimes, unfortunately, you do have to expose your nsec. NOSTR is very much an evolving protocol.

Over time you’ll work out the best range of services for you and which ones you wish to pay for.

I hope you can stick with the journey. I think it’s worth it. Plus I’ve had a look through your posts and like a lot of your art.

I think you’ll find an audience here and you might even find it pays well.

this signer used esp32 which is not safe and have backdoors.

Have you let nostr:npub1c878wu04lfqcl5avfy3p5x83ndpvedaxv0dg7pxthakq3jqdyzcs2n8avm know?

you will slowly move to paying for more open services that interop nicely with other services, rather than centralized silos that rent-seek by arbitrarily trapping you.

maybe not today, but some day.

1. Easy

2. Easy within a #communikey (with its own main relay + blossom server)

3. Hard but high priority

what do you mean with tools for media editing? in app video editor?

Cutting resizing photos, video editing, cutting, adding music, etc.

Also, since there’s no algo. If you guys would Repost my work/Follow that would be amazing 🙏🏼

Those should be implemented as ‘layer 2’ client or server features rather than additions to the NOSTR protocol itself.

'just' function as well as apps funded with millions if not billions is no easy feat though

It's not... And that's where we are at now.

Sounds like Linux gradual adoption over the years … still… I’d much prefer open source regardless. What about some kind of development platform running off lightning snd sats? I feel a nostr YouTube equivalent would be a start with zero ads and 100% education/helpful content.

portable digital social ID

Bingo. The biggest hurdle isn’t convincing people why they should use Nostr—it’s making sure they can use it without friction. Most people don’t care about decentralization, censorship resistance, or sovereignty; they just want things to work.

Right now, onboarding is a nightmare for the average user. Private keys? Relays? Wallet integration? It’s all second nature to the tech-savvy, but a brick wall for normies. The moment they hit friction, they bounce right back to the platforms they know.

The game-changer isn’t building something better—it’s building something equivalent but sovereign. The second it feels as seamless as its legacy counterparts, the advantages of self-ownership will do the selling. Until then, we’re just preaching to the choir.

Creator communities 👀

"...they just need to function as well as what Nostr is attempting to replace..."

I'm with this. Though I don't think we're setting people for failure.

I have failed myself, a lot, when it comes to using what few clients & apps I have the time & brain to use; but I feel this is a journey, an undertaking that many in this community have been very helpful with.

There has been times I've been the one to pause the "receiving of the help" because I need to catch up, or my non-Nostr life has decided to get in the way.

I am in agreement that user-friendliness does need to be a priority. If you are in your late 30s now, you need to think of how would your 80+ grandma/grandpa use this, why, & with how much ease.

Why?

Because the old ones still have a lot good sh*t to offer that many young'uns have no idea of its yuuuuge value.

I'm not saying let's cater to octogenarians, but when solving a problem from the perspective of your least capable participant, you solve it for everybody!!!!

I feel like I may be contradicting myself. I think I should, we all have yin & yang in us.

But while the user-friendliness of Nostr remains "questionable", we may need to focus on our community and help each other out to learn to use it with its current hurdles, as this creates new neurological connections. Challenge is good for our brains, while the work is done to smooth as many kinks to onboard EVERYONE. As in... No vulnerable member of our human specie left behind. Solving all the problems is a paradox, cuz new problems and challenges will always show up.

Agree…one barrier I’ve noticed is some sort of cultural resistance to anything other than Bitcoins/Sats which makes it a bit discouraging to help build the necessary infra knowing it’ll be poorly received.

Bravo!! This is brilliant. I especially love the motto…

“nostr is where people and their agents learn and get stuff done.” 📋💥🚀💜

three lists of three

I find it intriguing that you're wealthy for life, yet you're still engaged in personal and professional development!

Something like nostr:nprofile1qyghwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgawaehxw309ahx7um5wghxy6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejz7qgewaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8xmn0wf6zuum0vd5kzmp0qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpzpmhxue69uhkztnwdaejumr0dshsqg9mly364yjxqe0c33qv0kdlv8xvcrlnlnlsvk5vktl5e7akyzy0rcpj9h6f ?

I think you should try and disassociate the idea that Nostr is full of people who only are into crypto, I think otherwise you're missing out on private who either dislike it or don't have a purpose for even having an opinion of it.

Yes competing with already well astablished companies will be hard

Jack, how do you keep track of your lists? What do you use to store/file/organize?

the notes app on ios

It’s a great app.

okay

Problems solved > Tech built

Spot on product advice as always

I'm a creator.

Nostr offers a unique opportunity for me as an artist to authentically connect with my audience and other creators.

Its structure encourages direct interaction and distribution of works, keeping my artistic identity high and enhancing my work with zaps.

This open and connected approach not only expands the visibility of my creations, but also allows for better organization of artistic information and greater collaboration among creatives.

For me, Nostr is a space in which to share art, learn and grow together with a dynamic community.

Proof of Painting. Purchased via #nostr #safebox

AI powered nostr public contents search engine? Or does it already exit?

Because the current clients' search bars are really unhelpful

https://search.chakany.systems is probably the closest thing for now. you can search semantically

Tried it 😬

Anything better? 😅

yeah, will make improvements this weekend.

events need to be posted to wss://relay.chakany.systems so that's the main limitation

I will drop in on it later

I searched for two common keywords and I am getting back some language I don’t know

can i see the query?

“romania”

“community”

peep the similarity metric

the sample size right now is low because events need to be posted to relay.chakany.systems

additionally we don't support quotes or anything like that

it's a similarity check between embeded pieces of text

What distance metric are you using?

the value of the text embedding of the query compared to kind1s in the db

Like cosine vs euclidean or others. If its cosine, a negative value could be "opposite" meaning in semantic space. Wheras regular texts would typically be positive

euclidean distance

Negative euclidean distances?! Sir, unless you're working with (literal) imaginary numbers the math isn't mathing 🫠

But in any case, cosine is typically used for semantic distances

i guess it's called "L2 Distance"

will fix when i get home tdy

LEGITNESS 🤙

As someone who has managed other people’s / biz / social media accounts and like it when other people manage some of mine. It seems one key feature that hasn’t been figured out is delegation of authority to post and manage. Once given, how to remove

Yea I see that as a feature not a bug. Would much rather know that an account is just that one person (since they wouldn't give out their private key to someone to post on their behalf)

That’s a cool perspective 😍 so Nostr really forces / supports true P2P convos

Yo… 💡I learn so much from the answer of this notes.

You’ve nailed a solid framework here. The beauty of Nostr is that it’s not just another network—it’s a self-reinforcing flywheel of identity, value exchange, and information flow.

I’d add:

1. Permissionless experimentation → Builders ship faster, iterate smarter.

2. Resilient infrastructure → No single point of failure, no forced compliance.

3. Network effect with skin in the game → Users aren’t just participants; they’re stakeholders.

The more we lean into these strengths, the more we make “learning and getting stuff done” a truly sovereign experience.

5225 make you holla - but you like the new account 🤷‍♀️

the fuel:

1. creating things you love

2. making things you’re passionate about

3. crafting a better future

Love & Gratitude for ALL of this. Will def set aside time to dig in, digest and ponder. 😎☀️👍⚡✌️ - #opensource is amazing ✨✨

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Love & Gratitude for ALL of this. Will def set aside time to dig in, digest and ponder. 😎☀️👍⚡✌️ - #opensource is amazing ✨✨

Well done jack!

Splitwise alternative that uses Nostr identity and integrated Bitcoin/eCash transactions.

Me and a lot of other users don’t like the paywall

In circuits deep, like rivers run,Bitcoin flows for everyone.A matrix hums, its code unbound,A digital hymn on sacred ground.

The Chosen One, a shadowed gleam,Awakens life within the dream.To stack sats high, a rebel’s creed,Breaking chains of want and need.

Through tangled webs, the truth takes flight,A gleaming coin in endless night.The system bends, the future calls,Freedom rises, as fiat falls.

Autonomous agents on Nostr is my top investing priority rn

A few things I'd love to see:

- nostr auth (login with nostr for agents) (cc nostr:nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3uamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3dwp6kytnhv4kxcmmjv3jhytnwv46z7qpqxdtducdnjerex88gkg2qk2atsdlqsyxqaag4h05jmcpyspqt30wsqcfvpv )

- an open inference / gpu marketplace

- an app/tool store for agents to use (perhaps starting as an mcp registry) (cc nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqqyp0antm0cenus8utymsj0dy9r3sn9d7zf98rxysan37rnsn3eqthsx2ul8r nostr:nprofile1qyv8wumn8ghj7enfd36x2u3wdehhxarj9emkjmn99uqzqun2rcnpe3j8ge6ws2z789gm8wcnn056wu734n6fmjrgmwrp58q390rp63 nostr:nprofile1qyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvqy28wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hsqg9lc6hcy3xu9pv7lh7saqdx5705acu4h3u2eveq9dhjs7su5w38kvgy3cya nostr:nprofile1qyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnddakj7qgkwaehxw309ahx7um5wfjkc6t5v4ejummjvuhsqgzqh8y9lll2lsw2m7xrpf89ezrxplmwf9c6phrj84dtva94ucd52yr8jvw7 )

- agents that run their own ecash mints (cc nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpzemhxue69uhks6tnwshxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qpq2rv5lskctqxxs2c8rf2zlzc7xx3qpvzs3w4etgemauy9thegr43sugh36r nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj76n4deuxjmn8waskueewdaexwtcpzfmhxue69uhk66tnwd4k27fwv9e8gtcqyrp4l7xrgpzf7rtg4udwcjzyhdz2ns9cc8w57n2wl0r9uysrng6g557x0wy nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qqsvvlxnux5rm2jkelck7c6akt7mnmvkrycq9xx5wqd93e5wssycx3g7hxy6n nostr:nprofile1qydhwumn8ghj7mnjv4kxz7fwvvkhxar9d3kxzu3wdejhgtcprpmhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet5qqsgafy9ye4j9p2x8vfmlq6equtpcg4m8ks7v545g0d3f7wwueeq5scz9g5a6 )

What else would you like to see?

nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpq35r7yzkm4te5460u00jz4djcw0qa90zku7739qn7wj4ralhe4zqqsq594v6f6sv7k3u65yqsnl730r5lerrmz4s08egsyg5hfrqckz7sgur402w

I'm not sure login with nostr for agents is a problem. Agent will probably have direct access to it's own nsec and could sign whichever event they need after reading some NIPs (instead of delegating that to some app). HTTP-auth can be done with nip98 which again agent could do directly. The thing that seems to be useful is delegating access to your own key to the agent - here nip46 seems like a working solution.

yeah. that's an iphone.

Yes!! nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq32amnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwd4hhxarj9ec82csafn79u nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgewaehxw309aek2mnyd96zumn0wdnxcctjv5hxxmmd94lnue

That’s why nostr:nprofile1qqsgzu4eypfy0h07nxmcxvs8stgrztarqksen7etaz37v437yz60pcspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3zamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3jxyhxxmmd7ejprx and I are making Plebdevs generic, so people can fork it, while adding the FOSS merch store.

People will be able to, with a few clicks, have their own platform (NOSTR 🤝 NextJS) which gives them:

- Ability to post courses and content to NOSTR

- Receive donations and zaps for their content and/ or subscriptions

- Have a central global feed to interact with people / clients which clients can see too

- Have the ability to sell merch with a headless shop, so you can sell products / services as CTA’s with a cart that follows throughout the education / content

They simply need to add their brand name, logo, about text, color preferences and api’s (Shopify / btc pay)..

Imagine a generic version of this first link below with a merch tab:

https://plebdevs.com/

Here’s the FOSS repo’s also. We would love your feedback - is this a good idea? Is there anything in particular you’d like to see?

https://github.com/AustinKelsay/plebdevs

https://github.com/kiwihodl/merchtab

The NOSTR social graph, with lightning payments (lightning addresses encrypted and stored) solves the “affiliate” issues:

Wanting people to collaborate with content / merch, and refer business while getting meaningful rewards.

Thanks to nostr:nprofile1qqs9p2fjdhstrtk3kdjt7q40l3qjnl3jpcn58rj8rt9mqczusx4c0wcpvemhxue69uhkv6tvw3jhytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuef0dec82c33xfar2mned5c8z6mcdpj8yand09582upjd3k85upe8pk8y7tjxvuxwaec09mhs6m5ddc8xwt9w9j8guehv9ek563edvukx0mzwfhkzerrv9ehg0t5wf6k2qgawaehxw309ahx7um5wghx6at5d9h8jampd3kx2apwvdhk6tcjtwse9 - I will be converting and adding these too!

https://github.com/pardus79

https://github.com/pardus79/Pulse

https://github.com/pardus79/Proof-Of-Gift

https://github.com/pardus79/Nostr-Profile-API

This is an awesome contribution to the community if true. I would use it for our meetup.

Awesome, glad to hear you’d find good use in it. Make sure to watch the repo and follow for progress 🤝 perhaps we could help you set up earlier than others and you can help by providing feedback during the process so we can refine?

Love it ⚡️

right . bitcoin is the backbone of freedom . if you can produce your coin your self then you just win about everything.

Good morning. 👋

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Good morning. 👋

Hey community ! Big news: xAI and Telegram just dropped something huge! Over a billion users are getting #GROK. If you're a premium member, you get full access for free! #nothingtoseehere

i hav problemz with mid. 3 - mainly 1 & 3 - sO, there IZ th@

#Nostr is where real people and their agents cut through the #noise—learning, buidling, and getting things done without parasites.

In this decentralised #freezone, #freedom meets functionality.

#Nostr is the playground for revolutionaries, innovators, and anyone tired of top-down control.

Welcome to the new frontier of #cyberspace.

#growNostr #WEARETHEWORDL 🖤

https://peacefulparenting.com/

Bit off topic, but....

private micro communities is a super power we need unleashed!