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#asknostr

I good. nostr:nprofile1qqsfhc97plq8j4yzxv33v98yu8hunu5tpkeesqg7lmk0qhl9wrja6vcpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejs7qxss0 don’t don’t

Hopefully monthly used #nostr trust

I have absolutely no words 😂

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Trying very hard to ignore this absolutely stupid take. But I can't.

Amethyst is objectively better in terms of security than all the other apps you mentioned, because it doesn't even need your keys to work. All of it's code is open source and built verifiably and signed by the dev. Which means you know that the app that is running on your phone is exactly the one that is coded by the dev.

Something that you can never ensure on apple. And apple apps have been known to almost certainly have Trojans. Read about cocoapods dependency injection.

Wha?

Was there some attempt by Amethyst to get apptoved on Apple's iOS app store that I'm not aware of, and they were rejected for not meeting their security requirements?

As far as I am aware of, Amethyst was only ever made for Android. No iOS version was ever developed.

The reason probably had nothing to do with Apple's security requirements and everything to do with the fact that it's an entirely different OS architecture that requires a complete rebuild of the app, and not worth it when Apple's draconian rules didn't allow zapping to be available by default.

Heck, we still don't have an Android version of Damus, and that has nothing to do with Google's "security requirements" either. It's just a completely different OS to try and build for.

Ilve that you can't really delete notes on nostr so that stupidity like this can live on for generations 😂

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"Apple security requirements" = a backdoor for data collection to sell to advertisers/a backdoor for the CIA NSA etc. to breach your privacy

Amethyst is one ofthe most secure Nostr apps in the market. nostr:nprofile1qqs24yz8xftq8kkdf7q5yzf4v7tn2ek78v0zp2y427mj3sa7f34ggjcpzamhxue69uhhv6t5daezumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnddakj703s8dt team has gone above and beyond in privacy and security. Supports Amber, TOR natively (optional), comprehensive relay control, filter control (the user is empowered to decide what shows in his/her feed), encrypted messages and off course, open source.

The fact that is not available for Apple OS ia a completely different matter.

That being said, perhaps has to do with focusing resources according to market share of the OS, iOS is not that popular across the world:

Data up to date Q1 2025D

Hence, if the intention was to use the resources wisely to reach and get into NOSTR the most possible people across the world, Android seems the most logical choice.

Apple security requirements 😂

I would ask them directly, they are here in Nostr, nostr:nprofile1qqs24yz8xftq8kkdf7q5yzf4v7tn2ek78v0zp2y427mj3sa7f34ggjcpzamhxue69uhhv6t5daezumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnddakj703s8dt, nostr:nprofile1qqsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqpzamhxue69uhhv6t5daezumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcscpyug

My two sats:

Trusting Apple requires a leap of faith, it is a closed-source code and therefore, many libertarians and cyber security experts will choose (and IMO rightly so) to stay away from any Apple product.

Google, despite everything we know about the company and their business, has the code of Android OS open-sourced from the beginning, therefore, not only is constantly being scrutinized and dissected by cyber security experts but privacy forks are built for those who believe they need it as well for even more security.

To this day, every time I observe a person in the cyber security industry with an iPhone is hard to understand... they are in the business of "do not trust, verify", "be absolutely cautious and paranoid" and yet, they trust their life coms and social to a close sourced OS... 🤦‍♂️

You really think that Apple security requirements are something good for the devs? … closed code …

“Android (Google) relies on advertising revenue. Google collects extensive user data—location, search history, app usage, and more—to fuel personalized ads. Unlike iOS, where Apple’s revenue comes from hardware and services, Android’s core is tied to data harvesting. For example, Google’s Privacy Policy explicitly states it collects data across devices, including “things you do” and “things you create or provide.”

“Google Play Store’s review process is less stringent than Apple’s App Store. Malicious apps with data-stealing capabilities—like trackers or spyware—frequently slip through. A 2023 study by Zscaler found 5,000+ apps on Google Play with excessive permissions, potentially leaking sensitive data. Even worse. Third-party app stores, common on Android, amplify this risk with even less oversight.”

Android’s ecosystem is fragmented across thousands of devices and manufacturers, with many running outdated versions. As of 2024, over 30% of Android devices are on versions older than Android 12, missing critical security patches. Manufacturers like Samsung or Xiaomi often delay or skip updates, leaving vulnerabilities unpatched. For comparison, iOS devices typically receive updates for 5-7 years.

While Android offers privacy-focused options like GrapheneOS or /e/OS, these require technical know-how and aren’t mainstream. The default Android experience, especially on budget devices, prioritizes data collection over user control, making it a privacy minefield compared to more locked-down ecosystems like iOS

Android’s open-source nature allows customization but also enables bad actors. Rooting or sideloading apps, while user-empowering, opens doors to malware.

Privacy advocates often highlight how Android’s flexibility makes it a target for exploits, with examples like the 2023 Anatsa banking trojan affecting thousands of devices.

Most Android devices rely on Google Play Services, a background framework that collects data even if you avoid Google apps. It tracks location, device activity, and app interactions, often without clear opt-out options. Disabling it breaks many apps, leaving users stuck.

I don't trust anything that meets apple security requirements since Apple requires software to have poor security and/or violate licensing agreements

Some folks like Apples "Walled Garden"; they feel safe.

They're able to ignore the ever growing virtual reinforcements being added to the wall, the metaphorical barbed wire, the tech-accelerated surveillance systems, even the AI-robot gun turrets...the real attacks on freedom-tech.

It's the "garden" word they latch onto the most. And it's a very dirty job tending to that garden (a thing most users never engage in).

#GrapheneOS users are built different.

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I don't trust Apple. What do we do now?

Lol, you talk about security and then use clients whose DMs are still leaking metadata even after two years of better solutions out there. Your OS doesn't even allow apps to run Tor and VPNs correctly so that you can be private. And you can't verify any security in iOS because it's closed source. The "Apple security requirements" is just marketing.

Also, Apple has an ad platform. Facebook has to use Apple's trackers so that Apple can sell ads. Also, Google buys Apple data for 25B dollars a year, which is about 20% of all Apple products. Apple tracks you and sells it to Google. Or do you really think Google pays Apple that much just to be the default search on iOS? Turn your brains on. You have been brainwashed.

Apple is not your protector.

Apple is your pimp.

> apple security requirements.

Can you specify what these are?

That's because you're retarded, it's ok we all are

Segurança da Apple. Você é só mais um iludido. 😂

I wouldn't trust Iris either.

I have no trust for Amethyst and Iris for different reasons (not to mention I don't use Nostr on my iPad or iPhone, or even my de-Googled phone).