I didn't go to public school.

You called me a retard.

If you read all of what I wrote I repeatedly avoided talking about the covid vaccine and explained why. Google less wrong politics is the mind killer.

I'm opposed to all mandates. I'm also opposed to acting against my own self interest to spite a mandate. The people should take basic precautions to avoid getting sick no matter what the government says. The people should also be educated enough about how and why they get sick to know which precautions to take and when.

The worlds stupidest person can say the sky is blue. It still is and you'd be the idiot if you disagreed just because they were the worlds stupidest person.

This is the challenge I see people failing. Just because they tried to apply it by force doesn't mean everything they said about the field of epidemiology is false.

A lot of this I already tried to answer as we went.

I will say I looked for an all cause mortality comparison. I can't find it. Disappointing. Search results are all about the covid vaccine and I already said I won't piss on that electric fence.

The best I can do is point to a rise in global life expectancy after the invention of vaccines. A lot of other things changed so I won't declare that to be a final answer. I'm here to share truth backed with real evidence not just say what I think will win the argument for my side.

I think a lot of your misunderstanding comes from wanting a binary yes or no answer to things. Science simply doesn't work that way. Each bit of scientific knowledge has a little imaginary probability attached to it. Higher or lower probability based on the quality of reseach and number of studies that align with that fact.

We're always building that body of knowledge and that means that probability for each "fact" MIPis always changing. If you don't have an intuitive sense that those probabilities are there and what they are for different current scientific beliefs it is rough. You'll never understand why sometimes a challenge to existing science is met with a laugh and sometimes it gets a maybe.

If you do grasp that you can see why I say sure the data isn't gold standard but this model has more data showing how it aligns accurately with observation than any other model for this thing, so we let it ride here.

Once upon a time there was a visualization of this concept rating various supplements by meta analysis of existing studies. 1 axis showed confidence rating of the average study and bubble size showed how many studies there were. I can't find it now but the mental model stuck with me. Also holy shit take Creatine for sure no excuses no other supplement was even close.

That doesn't change that you didn't read my post the whole way through. Also, you called me a name rather than ask a question.

I'm taking my time to try to be a science educator because I think it is important. As an anarchist I can't force you to do anything. I need you to be educated enough to make the right choice on your own. Sure all hell not raking in the zaps on this thread to meet my typical hourly rate for the time I put in.

He held a patent for a competing immunization method for MMR so he stood to benefit financially if he could show a problem with the existing MMR vaccine. His "study" was also proven to have been funded by the lawyers he used to sue the vaccine manufacturer, which shows entire thing was premeditated.

Saying viruses is a big umbrella for a lot of similar organisms. Like fungi, big umbrella term that collects things that will kill you, make you high as fuck, just taste good, or maybe improve your health. Each virus is different and some of them mutate more or less from generation to generation. Slow mutating viruses are easier to vaccinate for while faster mutating viruses like annual flu have vaccines that must constantly change and still only sort of work at best.

I don't know you, we have no conversation history. You show up and call me a retard after two posts while also clearly not having even read all of what I wrote.

I'm going to ignore you now. I'll be focusing on mutual follows who are engaging in good faith.

I haven't blocked you, but don't expect me to continue to answer you in this thread.

That depends on the quality of the study. Wakefield, the OG vaccine autism guy, lost his license because he faked the data. He admitted to it under oath. It requires no epidemiological understanding to prove it. Real world data looks different under statistical analysis than made up data. His data was made up. In the trial they proved he made up the data and outed his motives for lying.

There are lots of quirks of numbers that will give you away. Go look up the 1 paradox how numbers generated by humans for any purpose are most likely to start with a 1, not an even distribution of the 9 digits.

Beyond that we would need to go case by case. Maybe the person deserved it maybe they didn't. I don't think the system is perfect. I already talked about how their slow adoption of new knowledge personally hurt me with leaky gut.

Look at Newtonian physics vs general relativity. Science advanced. Here is the thing though. People knew about problems with Newtonian physics. Sometimes it worked and sometimes the math wasn't quite right. General relativity wasn't just an opposition to Newtonian physics. In order to be adopted the math has to explain everything that Newtonian physics does equal or better and solve some of its problems. If your new solution doesn't fit with what we know to be true it gets thrown out right out of the gate unless you can also prove that other knowledge is wrong somehow.

Walk into a room of Mathematicians and declare 2+2+2=7 because 2+2=5 and 5+2=7. You'll get laughed out of the room and no one is going to call you a Mathematician anymore. They shouldn't. You made a basic mistake in mathematics and insisted you were right rather than saying oops when it turned out you didn't even have the knowledge you were trying to overturn right. Since this is medicine human safety is on the line and they should take your license just like that mathmatician shouldn't be allowed to calculate safe bridge loads and spans anymore.

The virus can copy itself after it gets into you. Your exposure does not need to be the entire virus particle count at peak of your illness.

The table leg isn't real because I can't see it until the lights are turned on which is the whole convoluted process involving power plants miles away and tons and tons of wires, or even more absurdly by using fusion on the sun which isn't even on earth!

Believe that all you want you'll still break a toe if you kick it.

But again, the variability in the effectiveness of the immune system is already part of contagion theory.

I need a spark and a fuel to make a fire. Both.

Sparks happen in confined spaces with no fuel and no fire happens all the time. Flammable things sit around not catching fire all the time. I'm posting this sitting on a wooden chair.

Sometimes sparks are big or small (virus exposure level, think passing a stranger on the street vs making out with someone) and sometimes they land on fire bricks or gasoline (a strong or weak immune system)

No one who understands contagion theory would argue that the immune system response doesn't vary and massively effect your chances of getting sick.

You are focused entirely on the flammability. I'm not denying that the flammability matters. I'm saying that the can of gasoline in my garage year round for my mower proves that the spark is important too.

We don't know, or do we? The gold standard here would be all cause mortality at various ages compared between the two groups. No one is faking or downplaying their death to minimize a health issue to their doctor.

Even that would be a muddy number. I know more than 1 man who has nearly died because they tried to avoid a hospital visit they needed, myself included.

Sepsis from minor cuts, burst appendixes, ignored heart attacks, and so on.

Not looking good for you. Perhaps you should be taking notes on nostr:nprofile1qqsd68ua2qk8j5wlgl503mfyt69l5f8haqkz3uvnnx50pe6tqcgn5ggpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq32amnwvaz7tmwdaehgun9d35hgetn9ehhyecpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgpjw3m8 list of ways we're inferior.

No, but with 7 billion of us someone is always sick somewhere.

If you are unconscious after a car accident you don't get a say, the ambulance is going to take you.

For everything else you get a say. Your own beliefs, I'm fine without a doctor or I need help to be healthy, will shade every decision.

All of your "worse among the vaccinated" examples are things a stubborn person could choose to just ignore.

My nose runs sometimes. Do I self diagnose with allergies that I report to a doctor or blow my nose and forget about it?

I planted my flag with the global telecom network. What is the global monument to neurotypical cooperation?

Finalized product tells the tale more than assumptions from your own perspective.

Whatever you say, it doesn't the mean neurotypical way is better. Only that they are both capable of great things despite working different.

I don't need to beat your example. My single example of global cooperation by millions of individuals invalidates your argument that the autistic way of connecting doesn't work to be more than individuals through cooperation.

You can. It is just easier if you grow it up to a billion particles instead of the thousand you start with. They were found first, then the process of growing them in cultures to make them easier to find was devised.

From another person's snot. So it goes with the virus mutating all along the way and those mutations are where new viruses come from.

It is no different than saying where did the first human in NYC come from? Or any other larger living thing and place. Slow genetic mutation and travel from a prior living thing all the way back to the first replicator. TLDR, evolution applies at both scales. It actually started on those tiny things and then created bigger ones.

They did not properly control for willingness to interact with the medical establishment.

No single medical decision is in isolation. They arise out of a system of beliefs that affects your every decision.

No, they don't interact with doctors in the same way. Christian Scientists for example are unvaccinated and completely avoid the medical establishment believing that all medical interventions violate gods will.

I just told you. You inhaled clouds of snot that were fresh enough that the virus hadn't died yet.

Yes you can. The problem is in naturally occurring environments the concentration is low. So rather than scroll around the microscope all day hoping to get lucky they intentionally increase the concentration to make it easier to find and study.

They were found first. The process of making them easier to study by growing them on cultures was invented later.

Is it more difficult? Maybe in one or two contrived cases you set up. On balance across my entire life? I honestly doubt it.

I AM autistic and I CAN see the difference. This is a common neurotypical misunderstanding about autistic people. The issue is that given the autistic brains frame of reference your social rules are irrational, autistic people generally have no respect for irrational rules. There are different social rules that are natural to autistics. From our perspective neurotypicals are rude as fuck and difficult to work with. So who gets to decide which frame of reference should be the one that sets THE rules about manners? I could just as easily say that I have decided all neurotypicals are socially deficient because they can't properly engage with autistic social structures.

I'll point again to all the things built by all the autistic engineers around the world. For example, the entire global telecom system is a constantly growing body proof that autistic social norms enable cooperation that builds amazing things and drives society forward.

A continual project of excellence in every situation you face throughout life.

What about the hindrance of being neurotypical?

Throw out the non functional people from both sides because they are edge cases on both sides.

Neurotypicals are generally worse at math. Generally worse at all formal logic applications really. You are also basically completely incapable of entering the state of hyperfocus that allows autistic people to learn new subjects in a fraction of the time.

I completed all the work for my accredited masters degree in under 6 months. Hyperfocus is basically a superpower level advantage compared to neurotypicals.

Who gets to set the frame of reference that says social skills are more important to have an advantage in than the skills that autistics have an advantage in? Oh right, the neurotypicals decided and it never once occurred to them to consider their disadvantages.

On top of that, what social skills advantage? You waltzed into my thread to compare me to an amputee without ever asking about how my autism affected my life. Did it ever occur to you that might be rude as fuck? Did it ever occur to you to take a moment to empathize with the life experience of a real autistic person and see the world through their eyes before you decided it was so horrible? Nah, you're just sure that my disdain for small talk about the weather makes me worse at socializing without ever considering the depth of relationships I get to build with other autistics who have shared special interests.

I'm being rude on purpose for revenge. I know it. It was not an accident caused by my autism.

The people of the jury have spoken. The government prosecutors should not be able to appeal, only the defense.

If you all insist on having a government at least make blatant harassment of private individuals a little more difficult for them.

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That's the neat part. You don't.

If you think you've achieved manhood you stop growing and trying. That's not a man, that's a dead man.

1 day at a time. I can only spend so much time on it at one shot. Using sharpie to mark as I go so I don't lose track day to day.

I need to set some of these up. 1 project at a time.

I thought you said you don't work with your hands?

Booger test passed. IYKYK

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You were never exposed to smallpox. Because the vaccine eradicated it.

I'll definitely take your 3 cases of people who didn't get a disease they were never exposed to over the millions of deaths that just stopped globally. :rolleyes:

Statins are a strawman here. I won't chase it. They aren't a vaccine and aren't even for a virus like smallpox. This is just a way to always hide behind another "because I chose what I will believe against evidence and I will always dodge to another subject when shown evidence"

You only sound clever by making this demand to science illiterates. To someone who understands how such a study works this might as well say "I have chosen to never believe no matter what evidence is presented."

I won't just call you out though, I'll explain why that is an impossible and immoral demand.

Have you considered the morality of doing a nice long randomly assigned large study when 10% of all human deaths are caused by this 1 virus and you know can prevent it?

Every person who gets a vaccine that works reduces the number of people spreading the disease. That makes it impossible to not confound your control placebo group unless you lock up the subjects of both groups and isolate them from the general population.

Once you isolate them in your prison you have to intentionally expose both groups to the live virus because your isolating them could confound your results by preventing them from being exposed. Remember were talking about intentionally exposing people to a disease with 30% fatality rate that is responsible for 10% of all human deaths globally.

Don't forget all the people not in the study dying while you confirm that you are still successfully intentionally murdering the human subjects in your placebo control group.

Good luck with that Mengele, history will not be kind to you.

First, the law explicitly states that compliance with the law should not be used as an excuse to block loading of third party software.

Second, GrapheneOS team has been working on a first party manufacturer device running GrapheneOS which would not be affected by this law.

Better for your kids and better for your wallet to keep a wife and only that 1 stable partner.

Better for you too if you are capable of being more than a walking boner. Describing men as just a sex drive leaves a lot out of the picture. While what he describes is common, lots of animals do pair bond for life and the male remains loyal to that 1 partner.

Pair bonding is more common in species with fewer kids. The fewer kids females are willing or able to have the more evolution will favor males who stick around and invest in their children.

I kinda suspect humans are in the process of evolving away from spray and pray towards pair bonds but it hasn't fully finished yet. How do fatherless kids fare? How long does it take humans to reach adulthood compared to other species?

Being a philandering young man meets your novelty desires but ignores everything else about you. Easier to drive up novelty in a marriage than to get emotional connection in a 1 night stand.

It could be if you consider DIY a part of the bitcoin ethos.

I gotta be honest, I'm not paying for the salt I'm paying for the flavor.

I know I could dump out a salt shaker and snort a few lines.

I need so much choking it down is not gonna happen.

If they were really worried about green energy they would try to harness power from Orwell spinning in his grave.

That has to be 50-100 coal power plants we could shut down tomorrow easily.

That kid is almost definitely autistic to be that dedicated to one random thing for that long.

Not shitting on him at all. More a reminder that autistic people have a lot of power to bring joy if you weren't busy bullying them for being a little weird.

Yeah the movie.

She goes there to hook dressed as a little girl and his staff apologize that the agency sent the wrong girl and the new girl is way too old.