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Not at all on the same page.

Chances are you've restored all of your onchain addresses. But your lightning channel is going to have to time out which will then send the stats back to address that you can see in your wallet.

What I don't know is if the way Zeus does its lightning service provider functions would allow you to restore the channel. But it seems that is not so.

But hopefully Zeus will answer this question.

Haha... not "yucking" your tabloid... those are kinda fun. But the poor SDT catcher. Hopefully she can heal from whatever is making her do this. But the money and attention might make it harder.

I agree, but at the same time as a 2011 bitcoinner those are my reasons. Though I still like nostr. Love it. It's just going to take time. People haven't even figured out what it is yet honestly they think it's a Twitter replacement. And it's not it's a tcp/ip protocol layer that is going to do a lot of things that make more sense on a fundamentally ephemeral layer then the monolithic things that we've built so far on top of tcp/ip.

To that point people don't understand Bitcoin either. Just watch Roger ver's recent interview. If anybody should understand Bitcoin it's him. There's plenty of people here who believe he's still preaching gospel. And they don't get it either in my opinion.

All takes time.

As a Bitcoin old timer I would say there are several reasons.

The various waves of bitcoiners that seem to come, perhaps with each cycle seem to have different styles, value and priorities than older holders. So partly just a culture thing.

Some of the discussions, and even fights can seem futile (I have seen threads on "wen bigger blocks" and "Bitcoin is a failure because it has a transparent Blockchain" just this morning). Some OGs might not want to relive and rehash those.

And then of course there are the opsec challenges.

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GM

True humility.

The US M2 money supply is currently over 21 trillion dollars. This means that there enough dollars in the US money supply to buy every last Bitcoin ten times over at this BTC price.

And amazingly the M2 is only a fraction of the money supply in the world, and this does not even consider a single drop of the value that exists outside the money supply like real estate, and other real value stores. And let's not even consider derivatives.

Wake me when this is all priced in.

And I end my day.

Meaningless to everyone but me.

Goodnight.

Ok nevermind... I see why. Where do I sign up?

Why are you doing this to yourself, sir?

Nevermind. I know. I've been there.

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Have the sweetest of dreams.

"does not mean I am not a" --uncovers left boob-- "female bat!" (lol! classic)

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Poster name checks out strongly.

I have decided AI and I can be friends! I almost can't wait for it to take over the world!

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Ah Henry Valentine Miller.

(you don't have to be very skinny for sex, honestly. And I love a good torta. Maybe barbecoa, maybe Cuban)

I am one of those old school (2011) Bitcoin maxis who dabbled in and eschewed alts by about 2015. But the only one I saw was something that had significant use outside Bitcoin was and still is Monero. I have committed commits in the repo and was the "donation system" back in 2014-15.

In the early days, the Monero users actually sort of embraced the fact they were s***coiners like all the rest. Even though we did, for sure, see something about Moneeo that was special. But we never thought that it took the spotlight away from bitcoin. That was the big innovation. Manero is taking some risky trade off chances that may actually have been worth it.

It was sometime after the block size debate and bcash days that the Monero Community started to turn into the bcash community. Started having sour grapes about how Bitcoin had missed the point and it was all about "number go up". Basically all the bcash arguments.

And honestly, I think Monero had a better ground on which to make those arguments then Bitcoin Cash ever even did.

Monero is still useful. And until Bitcoin can do privacy the way Monero does it will always be. But I wouldn't put it past Bitcoin to inherit much of monero's skills. Most likely on other layers.

Anyway, all of that is to say mostly that trying to shame bitcoiners from the Monero perch is a waste of time in my opinion.

Something about this sentiment bugs me. Who are we to judge Saylor for what he chooses to do or not do with his money? And how do we know all the things he's doing without telling us? It seems a bit on the entitled side to me.