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Today is mostly speculative.

If we dont reach mass adoption, Bitcoin will lose to cbdcs

I'll go back to my original point. Onchain doesnt scale. lightning will be a necessity someday. Nothung else matters

tx size still much bigger than bitcoin and there is no monero l2. Youre right that someone might figure out lightning for monero but then you have the same problems as lightning fpr bitcoin.

As it is bitcoin scales much better than monero

Again, bad logic tony. Lots of people wanted segwit, lots didnt. That's not really an argument. If you read my original reply to you it asked you to read the bips and come up with a real argument

Still waiting for that

Christian Decker is a good man but it would probably be better for everyone if he got blockstream to push apo harder.

It is. People want drivechains (thats why youre sp threatened) and the whole argument presupposes they dont.

drivechains add a hash and a counter to the block header. it lets people, if they want to, put their coins in an address controlled by the miners. those bitcoin then can move around on a sidechain. it's like the liquid federation or the wbtc multisig but the miners are the custodians.

non-technical people and people that have delusions that bitcoin can scale by some, as yet undiscovered, magic crypto shared utxo thing (or dumber people that think bitcoin can scale just with lightning) are upset because they see a growing movement to activate drivechains and they don't get it

I want drivechains, that already makes that statement false.

Gotta wonder about the quality of your opinions om Bitcoin when your offhand arguments are so silly

Segwit blocksize increase

The fact is that adoption ofnnew technologies takes time. Lightning is good for merchants but only the very smart ones realize it so far.

silent.link

bitrefill

lnvpn

sms4sats

the list keeps growing

You are very right.

Catuion and disagreement are good. By panties in a bunch a I meant more to refer to people making up strange justifications like Paul Sports being a secret puppet of roger ver. Or layer two labs being any different from the state chains guys, zerosync, or blockstream / lightning labs pre-segwit.

Getting emotional and irrational is not good.

Yes, the fees have to rise for it to be worthwhile. Remeber the benefit of running an ln node is proportional to the fees you save too.

If like me, you make a lot of bitcoin trqnsactions it pays for itself.

The fact that so many people get their panties in a bunch over letting people escrow their bitcoin with miners is hilarious.

Agree but you're shifting the goal posts