This is awesome.

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The reaction of nostr users when Zuckerberg's first #ActivityPub post bridged through to people's feeds was hilarious. I swear, I could hear the sound of a million nostr users simultaneously hitting the mute button.

Well, Zuckerberg bridged his #Threads platform to the #fediverse which is also bridged to #nostr.

So, anyone that uses a nostr relay* that is also a bridge to #mastodon can follow Zuckerberg and get legal, because he owns the rights, live #sports feeds on #nostr

And yes, that is Zuckerberg's legit, bridged, Threads account..on #nostr.

Open protocols means everyone gets to use it.

* wss://relay.mostr.pub

Muun uses submarine swaps so fees can be very expensive. Phoenix is a real non-custodial lightning wallet but their routing fees are half a percent, which is well, I no longer use Phoenix after they jacked their fees up that high.

I use Zeus now.

It might be a bit overwhelming at first to a novice, but it's well worth putting in the effort to learn all it has to offer.

#Nostr doesn't use accounts though. It uses public key - private key cryptography. Your nostr account isn't on any server, the same way a Bitcoin wallet isn't on any server.

An npub string is a users public key on the nostr network. They also have a corresponding private key that starts with nsec that they use to cryptographically sign new posts.

You've crossed over into...the #Nostr Zone!

Fun Fact: nostr uses have the ability to #zap you Bitcoin rather than a boring old 'like' if you add a lightning address to your nostr profile.

Well, wow.

Ok, I'll try one of theses.

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Ok, that clears that up.

Is there any country on the planet that doesn't limit all payment infrastructure by tax regulation?

A legitimate business accepting Bitcoin payments is going to pay their taxes. Accepting Bitcoin is never going to change that

Someone selling shit on Facebook marketplace and accepting Bitcoin as payment, isn't likely to be of interest to any government. Unless they're seeing Ferrari's by the dozen for Bitcoin.

Hhhmm, I'm going to go have a think about a way to exploit this model.

Oh the other hand, is note retrieval across relays a problem serious enough to warrant additional automated discovery of relays? A new user with a fresh client is going to have way more trouble than a long time user with a well curated list of relays. How often does a long time user have problems retrieving notes?

I'm not a fan of relays that bridge nostr to mastodon. I don't ever want mastodon posts filling my feed. What happens when the note that can't be retrieved wasn't actually a nostr note, but a bot created cross post from mastodon that I don't actually want to see, by not including bridge relays in my client?

Will that note be forced upon me?

Wait, this is a discussion about implementing a gossip protocol that adds discovered relays to your nostr client.

There are people that aren't happy that public relays have blocked them as spammers. Plus, people aren't adding the spammers private relays to their clients so their spam is effectively blocked, unless you intentionally add their private relay to your client. Then you can see their spam.

They call this censorship.

So their solution is to implement a gossip protocol that discovers new relays and automatically adds them to everyone's clients to force people to see their spam, which you'll have to block by adding the spam relays to blocklists on your client.

Their arguing that it's important that you read what they have to say, even if you haven't subscribed to their relay. They certainly seem to think they are important people.

So, should nostr keep the current method where you subscribe to the relays that relay the notes that you're interested in, or change to a system where you get random relays pushed to you by a gossip protocol and you have to block what you don't like?

Come on now buddy where did I say anything about execution of code? Stop the gaslighting.

Spam, is all I've ever said will be the problem with having relays pushed to clients by a gossip protocol.

I've never, ever said this is in anyway a security problem. So stop accusing me of saying that right now buddy.

But, users can never blacklist 0-day bad relays. It would be a never ending, constantly growing blacklist because there's no upfront costs to setting up a malicious relay. Unlike lightning nodes, that require an investment in Bitcoin to open channels that you put at risk if you attempt anything malicious.

Every day, users would have to put up with the shit from the latest spam relays pushed to their clients, as well as updating the blacklist of the spam relays discovered yesterday.

Spammers will flood any gossip protocol with hundreds of spam relays each pushing tens of thousands of bot generated spam notes.

That is no way I'd ever use a client that kept adding random relays discovered by a gossip protocol. It would also make Nip-65 useless because so many other accounts would be full of gossip discovered spam relays.

Relays should operate by reputation. If I offer a no NSFW, no politics, no crypto filtered relay that had a reputation for filtering everything except cat photos and cooking recipes, shouldn't people only ever use this relay by choice, and not have it forced upon them unknowingly by a gossip protocol?

Just as relays flooded with Alex Jones Protein Shakes spam should never be pushed to anyone.

Gossip protocol to find cheap routes for lightning payments makes sense because it's not being used to distribute human created metadata. There's no benifits to try and exploit this mechanism.

A gossip protocol to distribute lists of human curated relays, each and every one of them having an agenda, blatant or sublime, would be a disaster. It will be exploited because it can and will benefit spammers.

Letting people chose to use a relay that filters NSFW content has to be superior to forcing people to constantly be blocking NSFW relays they don't want.

Gossip model will be exploited by spammers. You'll end up flooded with relays with nothing but notes on penis extenders and Alex Jones Protein shakes.

You'll end up with huge lists of blocked relays that your client will have to use ro keep the gossip protocols from adding all the spam relays constantly.

I'm so old, I still use "vi" for all my editing. I have all the commands committed to muscle memory after 40 years so I don't ever have to think about how to do stuff with the editor. My brain only has to think about what has to be done, and my fingers type on auto-pilot.

A gossip protocol will make it really easy for spammers to push their spam relays onto everyone and flood feeds with scammy adds for shitcoins and penis extenders.

Then, well need a second gossip protocol to distribute lists of spam relays that clients can use to filter them from the relay gossip protocol.

And finally, well need human curated lists of clean, nice , inoffensive relays for people to use, that that don't want to deal with all the spam relays from gossip protocols.

Or, we let users add whatever penis extender advertising relays they want to subscribe to manually, or by following someone posting to that relay, giving people a choice rather than having relays thrust upon them that they then have to filter out.

Censored means actively blocking notes. Me, not wanting to subscribe to your relay and read your notes, is not censorship, it's me exercising my freedom of choice.

Are you asking if you should have a second node to do zaps? Then, no, don't.

Install #lnbits on your node and you'll be able to create sandboxed wallets on your node. You can have a sub-wallet on your nose just for zaps. And then, you can add a second wallet you can use for #Cashu. That's what I do. I even have another wallet setup for selling stuff using #btcpayserver.