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working on getalby.com - a browser extension with lightning and Nostr support

If you realize you're somewhat part of the evil side. What do you do?

or you see me? I am also bumi there.

but it’s good to not trust :)

You don’t see me on GitHub?

I am user id 318 there.

Acinq and some others have channel limitations that the max amount is a fraction of the capacity. I am not sure about the number exactly.

but for sure less than half.

we’re slowly sending out invites…

we want to make sure that we can provide people with a good experience, so we are slowly rolling out and improving

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Well I’ve been having the worst experience.

Trying to get in on with nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm

Setting it up albyhub on raspberry pi, transferring funds, trying to open a channel, thinking I made a mistake, I opened another thinking I could just close as the funds were, after all within tx alby wallet, or so I thought.

I got no confirmation on «close channel», but I got the option to redeem Onchain Funds, this was very poorly explained so I thought it would redeem from the transfer address from the channel tx, really it asked for the address I wanted it redeemed to, I was idiot I know, but there was no indication that funds would be transferred out of my possession.

So I managed to transfer all my redeemed funds out of my wallet without knowing this is what this function would do.

Not receiving funds back on close channel I thought maybe I needed to add receiving balance so I opened an invoice to «pay with another wallet», I thought this invoice would pay the fee and place the rest in my saving account, I was an idiot again, transferred to much for the invoice to registrer so now the sats just sitting there in there invoice address, did not increase my «receiving capacity», the payment has to be exact, again I did not know this and there was no indication it had to be exact.

Then my albyhub started acting up, disconnecting not allowing me to reconnect. So I update raspberry and albyhub, now I cannot even unlock my wallet, can only ssh into raspberry, albyhub.service fails, updating albyhub and rebooting only freezes the raspberry when alby starts running.

I lost more than 500k sats trying to get this running.

Now they are telling me that if I cannot unlock my albyhub, I cannot retrieve any funds I still might have. I dont think I have any funds left, to me it seemed all my channel funds was transferred out of my wallet with the redeem function. I asked them to look at my blockchain transactions to confirm this, but they are either not looking, or not telling.

Like they could just look at the transaction and see what happened with the redeeming of funds… So then I’m thinking they are not telling because they see the funds are lost and don’t to come and be outright like yeah, those coins are gone, sorry for inconvenience.

I got fucked trying to wrap my head around this and If you’re an idiot like me.

I would not recommend.

I know this amount is not a lot, but to me as a student - I could’ve easily lived off this for a month or two.

GetAlby?

I feel like I got rekt.

I’ve been robbed at gunpoint and that experience was more pleasant than this.

Signing off for now, my albyhub won’t come back online, at this point this is way over my head and I do not know what to do, how to fix, I’m afraid if I try anything else I will just fuck up and lose even more so I’ll stop here.

I’m just left with the feeling that lightning wasn’t for me, I thought bitcoin was supposed to be for everyone.

I feel like those guys who’s been victim to pig butcherialbycams, like how could you fuck up like that? how stupid can you be?

Well I didn’t even need a scammer to lose my coins with alby.

#albyhub #getalby #getrekt #alby #damus #lightning #wallet #bitcoin #asknostr #zap #getbroke #mistakesweremade

we also can not look at your transactions. albyhub is a self custodial wallet, we don’t see your addresses and transactions.

to help you I need some more information.

for example it is just impossible that you paid a lighting invoice with an higher amount than requested. funds do not just sit in an invoice.

a lightning invoice is a very specific payment request.

Replying to c8f7f9bb...

Well I’ve been having the worst experience.

Trying to get in on with nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm

Setting it up albyhub on raspberry pi, transferring funds, trying to open a channel, thinking I made a mistake, I opened another thinking I could just close as the funds were, after all within tx alby wallet, or so I thought.

I got no confirmation on «close channel», but I got the option to redeem Onchain Funds, this was very poorly explained so I thought it would redeem from the transfer address from the channel tx, really it asked for the address I wanted it redeemed to, I was idiot I know, but there was no indication that funds would be transferred out of my possession.

So I managed to transfer all my redeemed funds out of my wallet without knowing this is what this function would do.

Not receiving funds back on close channel I thought maybe I needed to add receiving balance so I opened an invoice to «pay with another wallet», I thought this invoice would pay the fee and place the rest in my saving account, I was an idiot again, transferred to much for the invoice to registrer so now the sats just sitting there in there invoice address, did not increase my «receiving capacity», the payment has to be exact, again I did not know this and there was no indication it had to be exact.

Then my albyhub started acting up, disconnecting not allowing me to reconnect. So I update raspberry and albyhub, now I cannot even unlock my wallet, can only ssh into raspberry, albyhub.service fails, updating albyhub and rebooting only freezes the raspberry when alby starts running.

I lost more than 500k sats trying to get this running.

Now they are telling me that if I cannot unlock my albyhub, I cannot retrieve any funds I still might have. I dont think I have any funds left, to me it seemed all my channel funds was transferred out of my wallet with the redeem function. I asked them to look at my blockchain transactions to confirm this, but they are either not looking, or not telling.

Like they could just look at the transaction and see what happened with the redeeming of funds… So then I’m thinking they are not telling because they see the funds are lost and don’t to come and be outright like yeah, those coins are gone, sorry for inconvenience.

I got fucked trying to wrap my head around this and If you’re an idiot like me.

I would not recommend.

I know this amount is not a lot, but to me as a student - I could’ve easily lived off this for a month or two.

GetAlby?

I feel like I got rekt.

I’ve been robbed at gunpoint and that experience was more pleasant than this.

Signing off for now, my albyhub won’t come back online, at this point this is way over my head and I do not know what to do, how to fix, I’m afraid if I try anything else I will just fuck up and lose even more so I’ll stop here.

I’m just left with the feeling that lightning wasn’t for me, I thought bitcoin was supposed to be for everyone.

I feel like those guys who’s been victim to pig butcherialbycams, like how could you fuck up like that? how stupid can you be?

Well I didn’t even need a scammer to lose my coins with alby.

#albyhub #getalby #getrekt #alby #damus #lightning #wallet #bitcoin #asknostr #zap #getbroke #mistakesweremade

hey, I am happy to help.

but I don’t know what you are talking about here.

you tried to withdraw onchain funds and what did you enter? where did you think that would send your funds?

I don’t understand what you tried and why.

we have onboarding sessions to help, maybe we can help you there.

in the browser extension you connect any wallet - what did you use so far?

and then you import your seed.

the seed is for the master key in the extension that can be used lnurl/nostr/etc.

so it’s good? and you can invite two friends?

Replying to Avatar BitBees

Went to my nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm account and can’t for the life of me see where the invite codes are. It says INVITE FRIENDS but then I have to enter my email, so I will try that and get back… nostr:note1t9rhvqfsep8vyecajc72893y5nh73sz20r5qnjrp7rtpwd8j5vgqw92chh

If you want outbound capacity you need to put some money in.

So you can also just send a few sats in through that first channel you get. You don't need to specifically open a new channel.

You start, Alby Hub by default helps you to open a channel to receive. Then you can receive payments of any amount and that you then can spend.

this default auto-pilot flow gives you incoming liquidity of 1m sats. so you can instantly receive lightning payments of any amount you want up to 1m.

if you manually want to open a channel to be able to send, then you deposit onchain funds and open a channel. We recommend there at least 250k sats. but that depends on how much you want to be able to send and receive.

I think there is a misunderstanding. With alby you don't need to wait for anything to withdraw.

in your original thread you talked about opening a channel with onchain funds. For that a minimum of 75k sats (recommended 250k+) is needed. but that has nothing to do with withdrawing.

This is about getting funds on lightning and works by putting onchain funds in the wallet and opening a channel.

This is the more advanced flow. To make it easy we have all that automated and as it seems you can already receive so all is good.

If you want to withdraw just send money out. if you don't want to use the hub anymore at all then close the channel and withdraw all onchain funds that you have then.

Let us know if we can help. Also feedback on where you're stuck would be super helpful.

Our goal is to make a self-sovereign lightning wallet available to everyone. Lightning is still early so there are still rough edges. Feedback is great to fix this.