The problem is software is not static and cannot be

You need to update it as the userbase scales and the environment changes, if that was not true, we could just not have NostrDB and still use Branle

You also forgot the human cost of operating servers and the gap in user count

nostr needs maybe a couple thousand dollars a month to keep the lights on. Clients already exist and running relays is insanely cheap. Damus will keep working even money runs out. You can’t say the same about bluesky

It is sometimes lol

You can do it today because it's cheap and easy. Let's run the numbers on how that is expected to look in the future.

We're gonna use astronomer math. We're only looking at orders of magnitude.

There are maybe 100 million bitcoin owners. There are soon going to be 10 billion people, increasing at an exponential pace. If we want 10% of people to trustlessly self-custody (this is a very low bar) we need to scale 100x.

An average tx on mempool right now is 37 cents. That's pretty cheap, actually. Imagine if the cheapest transactions ever got was $37.

That's 10% of people in 10 years. Extrapolate to 100% in 50 years (population doubles every 47 years), you need another 100x. That's $3700 for a one input, two output transaction. Used car money. You need to buy a new used car every time you interact on-chain. Wanna do a coinjoin? You're gonna need house money.

This assumes no new use cases for on-chain space. This could not be more wrong.

Quantum computers are coming. Post quantum signature schemes A) will require a soft fork and B) are also very large, so let's divide transaction throughput by 10-100x.

On-chain stablecoin transactions are just getting started. That's a huge market, multiple times larger than the lightning network today.

Ark service providers will be ticking out transactions at a steady clip. These are time-sensitive transactions so they will pay the prevailing fees to get on chain.

BitVM is building an entire computer using logic gates encoded in bitcoin script. Those will be very large scripts.

ZKPs are extremely promising and extremely large. We can't keep people from storing them on chain. Bitcoin is permissionless.

Don't forget about ordinals! Did you think they were just gonna go away? Lol, you silly goose. There will still be degens using up your precious blockspace.

Bitcoin simply does not scale well enough to serve the whole world. We need better tools on the base layer or else we are just LARPing about freedom technology.

Any #electricians know what guage this wire is? It is run to the outside of the house and I'm wondering if it can go on a 30amp breaker. Don't worry, I won't take any comments as advice.

For realz they are so nice

That's actually really neat.

The point though, this dude is apparently too simple to get, and the point that the seed signer is trying to make is that if they went after people like Coinkite did for forking their project, then the Monero signer would never happen.

Yeah, but community notes are there to double-check celebrities. Our "celebrities" have a majority-cult following, so the community notes would be aimed at critics of the celebrities. We're already under immense social pressure to give up and shut up, and that would just add to it.

Rabble was unable to censor as he desired, but he was "Community Noting" as a fallback.

He was also using a centralised opaque regime-linked service to do it, and you're not.

But the concept is the same - a (more or less) centralised "source of truth" gets to visibly assert authority over other people's speech.

Is there a specific reason you recommend considering this approach? I tend to prefer this approach as well, but there's a lot to keep up with.

Rabble did that.

Fed every note he could catch into a corporate Microsoft/OpenAI closed-source machine-learning "moderation service", and spammed the resulting cry-bullying back into the relays.

No.

We do not need Community Notes when we have an actual, free, and sapient community able to share their own notes.

People have to take accountability for their own education. What kind of nonsense is this world coming to?

To what purpose?

It was corrupted, multiple times, including this week AGAIN, so I moved everyone to other lists.

I don't use it for anything functional, anyway, as my theforest relay is an aggregator and a filter, and I just look at that, so it doesn't really matter.

I don't know which client did it (think it was Primal, but haven't been able to recreate it), but I suddenly had a bunch of Bitcoin influencers in the list and half of my original follows were missing. It was really weird.

Everyone knows my IP, all my relays. If I create a Twitter account, only Twitter knows that.

On Nostr, we take privacy too much for granted.

The moment you open a client like a regular user (without a VPN or Tor), you’re exposing more personal data than on almost any other social protocol or platform.

Even if you’re extremely careful, it only takes one slip, one instance of not using a VPN, to become completely exposed and doxxed.

I’m not suggesting changes to the protocol, in fact, I believe clients can play a crucial role here. But we need to start talking about this.

didn't they also use trezor's source code for the coldcard and when foundation used theirs for the passport, coinkite switched from open source to source verifiable? yeah, i'm not interested in what you're selling.. open source or bust

Did y'all read the vulnerability in detail? If you don't have access to near perfect lab conditions and incredibly expensive high-end equipment you cannot do this. In other work, this is a theoretical vulnerability for most. I was able to switch to new Yubikeys, but transitioning my passkeys and other creds was a PITA.