So there are no “pay 2 read” relays? Only “pay 2 post” right?

So business models will have to account for that

Jumble is really a great client for this experience.

One thing I’m unsure of though is the access to articles. You already thought of this with the “-“ tag but I’m curious how that would work in practice. What guarantees brands need to support themselves financially.

Would love to work this out and onboard a publication (and it’s contributors) this way

Unison Lang is prob the most interesting functional project for me right now https://www.unison-lang.org/

What’s weirder about October 7th is that Israel almost certainly knew about the attack before it happened. It was essentially their own Pearl Harbor

Hey nostr:npub1q3sle0kvfsehgsuexttt3ugjd8xdklxfwwkh559wxckmzddywnws6cd26p are you still running that service where you spin up relays for communities?

Maybe you should be able to subscribe to a profile specifically. But what you’re really doing at that point is good old fashioned legwork. You’re going place to place asking “have you seen this person recently?”

The UX should reflect this action. Again, it makes it understandable which is key to get user buy-in

At the very least, I’m happy to be the devil’s advocate here and push the “profile” camp to have better arguments.

To answer your final question of how to figure it all out, I think the answer is to still give relays precedence over all. If you want to “follow” someone, you need to subscribe to their “home” server (whether that is their home server or the club that they treat as their home base (“he’s a regular”)).

The trick is to simply base it all on real life analogy. Notes are posters/flyers. The relay servers are like clubs/bars/telephone poles.

Notes *need* a sense of locality. It’s what makes it understandable for the average person. When the normie understands a system, they buy into and invest in the system. It can become “theirs”.

I just discovered nostr:npub1syjmjy0dp62dhccq3g97fr87tngvpvzey08llyt6ul58m2zqpzps9wf6wl ‘s Jumble project and it looks like that UX would match what is needed! https://github.com/CodyTseng/jumble

Question: If nothing is curated, how do we find things?

Answer: Nostr relays that function like magazines.

Each of your contributors gets whitelisted to post on the relay. They are contracted to post X times per week. Readers just read from the relay.

Nostr clients need to support this UX. nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn nostr:npub1wmr34t36fy03m8hvgl96zl3znndyzyaqhwmwdtshwmtkg03fetaqhjg240

https://tadaima.bearblog.dev/if-nothing-is-curated-how-do-we-find-things/

It’s so Machiavellian to convince the ignorant masses to spend their Bitcoin. I respect it.

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The decimal place is fake anyway. Just drop it!

The decimal is fake. Just remove the decimal.

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If you want to “follow” someone, you need to go to the same places as them.

This is intuitive and obvious in the real world.

“Where did ___ go? Oh they stopped coming here a month ago. They’re over at ____ now.”

If you get invited to someone’s home (server), that should be a big deal.

Relays should be the primary entity in Nostr UX.

Trying to make it all oriented around users / people is a hack workaround.

Honestly, there should be no “following” and “followers” list that is attached to public user profiles.

NIP-2 (follow list) should be private to the user.

NIP-65 (advertise relays where the user generally writes to and relays where the user generally reads mentions) should replace it as the “public” info on someone’s profile.

Please just call it payouts or something. This shit is worse than Urbit naming

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I use it for research on niche interests. History of English phonetics, theology (eschatology). I’m often connecting ideas across disciplines. In that respect, one thing I find most valuable is when the AI can link me to its sources for information so I can verify

All the fediverse had to do was allow accounts to be separate from servers. That’s literally all they had to do.

Would be nice if there was a way to quickly and easily tell which relays are which…

Telephone pole = ephemeral, chaotic, maybe proof of work to post?, low trust

Shopfront Window = pay per post or ad-supported, agreed upon lifespan, semi-trusted

Church / University bulletin board = whitelist membership based, high trust

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