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“The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks.”

Maybe if so many of the people involved with Silicon Valley would not have been such insufferable bellends for the last decade, all the “normal” people would have a little bit more sympathy

Yeah, I don’t know how to edit or delete there’s an extra word there I know

It’s pretty cool people have something to talk about an hour Nostr and not just zaps

Do you think the public who is going to provide this massive reckoning is not distracted by the same laser pen?

Mismanagement ends empires (this doesn’t exclude bad monetary policy)

Ah shoot I’m going to self-censor now because I don’t want nostriches banned by other relays…. Oh sorry nm wrong mastodon

Replying to Avatar jack

ok

Oh hey - if you believe that hyperinflation is right around the corner, I hereby mock you :)

What’s with all these weird internet people defending the billionaires?

But also I hope DoorDash was spared because they’ve lifted the bar for all humanity

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I don’t wanna get too ahead of myself but we may be about to see a major public reckoning on what on earth banks even are and what they are supposed to do.

SVB didn’t go down due to “the tech bubble” or really anything to do with “banking Silicon Valley” being a bad idea. if anything, it’s a great idea! Their deposits went up ~2.5x in 2 years because there was a shit load of cash that needed to be banked! (debate separately to what extent that was a ZIRP phenomenon. I’m not saying this was good in the grand scheme of things. just that, in context, it was good business).

the problem is what to put the money in. most nocoiners seem to think that their deposits just sit there “as money,” and although I’m sure they don’t imagine notes in a vault, exactly, to a large extent that was true for SVB: they held treasuries - the “risk free” asset lmfao - which is as close to cash as you can get in a liquid security.

the conundrum here is that there literally is no such thing as “liquid dollars” - there is only credit. all dollar assets are somebody else’s debt. for all intents and purposes, treasuries *are dollars*. the idea of “keeping it in cash” at the relevant magnitudes is literally nonsensical. what would it even mean? deposit it at *another bank*? that hardly solves the problem!

the further you tug at this thread, the more you realise that dollars can only really be defined as vacuous promises by the US government to … one day give you slightly more dollars?!? that realisation is now getting aired in public.

I think the first consequence as this starts to sink in will be a massive preference for shorter term debt that can just be rolled over and over and over because the lesson of SVB is the duration sensitivity is absolutely not worth it. you can literally evaporate hundreds of billions of dollars by getting that just a little wrong even though you didn’t have much of a choice (“RISK FREE ASSET” LOLOLOLOLOLOL) this is yet another example of fiat driving up time preference and corrupting the information signals necessary to coordinate long-term capital investment. but oh well, the currency is collapsing so we have bigger fish to fry than the yield of long-dated bonds 😂

but the juicy bit is that we may be on the cusp of this reasoning, and the insanity of fractional reserve and central banking, finally being aired in public as people try to make sense of all this.

or maybe not, I dunno. maybe I’m naive. but I’m also bullish 🤙

Nah I don’t think the public is going to see “Silicon Valley Bank“ go down and have a very deep and complicated, reckoning about banking when right in front of their face is the observation that silicon valley is a perennial producer of obnoxious hype bubbles by obnoxious people, it’s a largely unregulated place where the tech bros declare they’re above the law because they got $1 billion in funding from some founders who think they are saving humanity by creating an app, I think we will reckon with all of this sort of obnoxiousness before we get into the nuances of what a dollar actually is or what a dollar actually represents.

You know that somebody is going to generate a spreadsheet of every single zap with all of the capital gains and turn it in to the IRS next April.

They are building it by making sure it happens elsewhere it’s true

2100 sats = 2100 sats

No, I’m not debating obvious derp

Yikes you’re serious about the literally nothing

Um… maybe my son tested positive recently and I don’t want to spread Covid to the students sitting in the first two rows of my class because that would make for a whole bunch of really really annoying paperwork with finals coming up if students have to reschedule their final, or take a medical incomplete- that’s not what I want to deal with during spring break.

I’m not judging you for not wearing one, but I don’t get the point of the reverse virtue signal.

If you want some anti-Elon red meat this dude is putting on a clinic https://mobile.twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1633082707835080705

Capitalism is great, but also DoorDash