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Jeroen Ubbink
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Software developer, bitcoin enthusiast

Imagine blind trust in anything but yourself.

Though the amount of changes or commits do not really tell the whole story. Maybe it's just that the master branch only contains the initial commit and nothing else. If nothing is released yet this could also be fine. Deploying this into something that is used by a lot of users every second/minute. Well let's say i'm happy it's not me having to do that.

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Replying to Avatar Mike Rama

I spent another 100,000 sats on a zap-vertising experiment…

And I think I proved that advertising on Nostr actually works…

Here’s:

1️⃣ What I did

2️⃣ The results

3️⃣ What I learned

1️⃣ What I did:

I sent 4105 zaps over the course of 3 days for a total of 112,000 sats.

Each zap contained a link for a blog post:

zapvertising-experiment.carrd.co

My goal was to see if I could get a reasonable cost per click (CPC)…

2️⃣ The results:

During the campaign I had a total of 71 unique visitors to the page.

CPC was 1578 sats or $1.50 usd.

I also gained 245 followers from that campaign.

These CPCs are in line with other ad platforms which validates the overall concept for me.

3️⃣ What I learned / brain dump:

- Results were better than expected.

- I thought there might have been a bit of negative push back (however none received).

- There is a chance I am significantly underreporting and google analytics isn't picking everything up (surprised to see 3-4x the number of new followers vs. clicks 🤔)

- THERE IS SOMETHING HERE. I still don’t know exactly what the model looks like, how it scales, but there is something to be uncovered.

- Right now, this can’t be done at scale… in the future it could. I spent ~$100 and it took me multiple days. In the future there will be ways to allocate +$10,000 per day here. For context of where we are at right now, Nostr daily zap totals are around 750,000 sats - about $675 - see stats.nostr.band/ for that data)

- Something feels off with the format… simply paying someone and sending them a link… The p2p model feels right, but the format feels off.

More to come 🫡

Let me know your thoughts 👇

Nice experiment. I was one of the few receiving some sats on 2 of my notes. When i saw it looked like spam or advertising i automatically didn't click.

I think people here are also caught off-guard as apart from some spam zaps people have probably never received advertising through nostr, so it's interesting to see what it's about.

I still find it fascinating how this whole concept work. On an ideological level i hate it, but on a psychological level it is a really interesting concept to invest a little money to attract customers so that you can actually turn a profit from said investment.

Mijn mening is dat het hele idee achter bitcoin is om ermee te betalen. Als iedereen afwachtend toe gaat zitten kijken tot anderen ermee gaan betalen dan komen we nergens. Betalen komt de adoptie ten goede en hoe meer bedrijven bitcoin accepteren hoe meer circulaire economie we genereren en hoe minder afhankelijk we zullen worden van onze centraal beheerde betaalsystemen en valuta.

Dangerous grounds. I sorta lost my life when WoW was released. Fortunately for me they managed to totally fuck it up in a couple of years later so i managed to snap out of it and that is when i decided i need a console instead of pc and buy single player games.

I found giving the wife a macbook to solve all my issues. Now i get maybe like 1 question a year vs multiple each week when she was on windows.

I do not like watching her use it though. 🙈

Windows free since 2007.

Only used it for gaming back then. Whenever i got back to pc gaming years later it turned out you could run most stuff with steam and lutris.

Yes same. In fact i have been able to count the amount of beers i drink in a year on 2 hands for about 15 years now.

I was never a big drinker but there was a lot of socializing during my twenties for sure.

On 2 occasions i managed to drink myself some temporary memory loss where i cannot recall parts of the evening nor getting home.

I hardly ever touch ice cream either though as it does not fit so well in my diet but i have committed myself to eat a banana ice cream if it's on the menu and i'm eating out.

Nice fast! I've never pushed it past 88 hours (stopped after dinner, started at lunch).

How was your body responding to the food?

Hmm quite interesting view. I also sort of dislike the fact that big npubs are usually what appears in a client after installation and starting it with a fresh nsec/npub keypair.

It makes sense that you would want to add surplusses instead of having to share the existing slots of time/money/attention.

On the other hand, isn't it normal that when you arrive later there are still limited resources that you can harvest from. Take cars for example. You can start a (better) car company but realistically most people only have 1 car so your market would be people that need a (new) car. It will be significantly harder than for existing car companies that already made a trustworthy name for themselves.

Same would go here. There are only so many people here with so much time. There will be people looking for something new but it will be hard to compete with the trustworthy npubs that have been around since the early days. Having a client start up with an empty feed would also be a steep uphill i think. If you ask me the relay setup is already adding a lot of complexity for new people and it would not help if they see nothing after starting up a client.

Can you make a case why i would be wrong or do you see any solutions that could be applied here?

Replying to Avatar elsat

nostr:npub1wetqn3lvuj562f32ecccsq0y0xpeffvssu37cl2tfruyrdyg505sdej2dp what are your favorite features or anti-features of the Google from 27 years ago?

No ads or promotional/paid links, no tracking, no profiling, no search suggestions.

Search links (copied url) always gave the same result for anybody.

I guess it's mostly the profiling and search suggestions that bug me.

But then the version we used 27 years ago right?

Ah yeah ok, i've been doing fine with around 12TB in zfs, but i delete most stuff after watching it except for a few things that were hard to obtain.