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So its more like mastodon. With all the same limitations. Since anyone can run a mastadon server also. And it seems that both Nostr and Mastadon will require you to do so if you don't want to be censored. I though Nostr was doing something different to mastodon in terms of censorship. I guess not.

If satoshi is alive and moved any of his bitcoins we would all see it. And from there, it would be possible for someone to eventually track down his IP address or the IP address of the the sent address holder (once they spend it, and if not them, the next person in the chain). And there would be a lot of motivation for block chain analysis experts to do this too. To avoid this, statoshi would (and perhaps is) going to have to censor himself.

Sure you can do that but the immutable public Blockchain is not yours and it is not private. Govnts can see every transaction. And in many countries in Europe you must declare your bitcoin (even zaps) for capital gains. So that private no KYC transaction you just used is only private if you break the law and refuse to pay taxes. Good luck in prison if you go that route

The govnt can and does monitor all transactions via KYC and capital gains tax laws. Of course you can break the law, but Bitcoin isn't goign to help you do that easier than fiat cash does. The govnt has made laws that require Bitcoin transactions to be transparent, and its very very difficult (and also illegal) to prevent that transparency without risk of jail (at least in UK) or doing something radical like move to El Salvador. Max Keiser moved to El Salvador because he knows Bitcoin is not lawfully private in UK and US (he lived in both). He knew the writing was on the wall and got out with his fortune before the govnt comes for it. And it will.

Lightning doesn't scale. Bitcoin doesn't scale. The scaling problem of blockchains is an issue for all cryptocurrency.

Tottally agree Pepe. Nostr really should work more like (PgP) email, which was and still is an excellent decentralized communication tool. My local email client controls my spam, I set the terms, not my email provider. It works just fine, I don't want anyone else (eg google) to decide what is or is not for me to receive and read (gmail has been trying to break this system, so I won't use it, Nostr clients/relays must not follow the same path). Spam is a pain, but it does not need to be controlled centrally.

What is the advantage of Nostr over Twitter? Nostr is a public forum, if it's relays are censored and controlled by unknown entities then it isn't really much different to a centralised platform like Twitter. More precisely it becomes another mastodon, with all its limitations.

If Bitcoin ever gets the privacy innovations that Monero has, it will become illegal. So you might as well switch to monero now and stop waiting. Bitcoin is only NOT illegal because it is super easy for govnts to control, trace transactions and taxes and (most importantly) takes the focus away from actual private permissionless cryptocurrency like monero.

No it isn't because the bitcoin is too complex and difficult to use for 90% of people. And if you have to use a custodial lightning wallet (which itself still has usability limitations) what exactly is the point in using Bitcoin at all? Might as well use paypal/visa.

Oh ! Well, if they can only jail you, nothing to worry about! Jail is basically the same as freedom. *eyeroll* Bitcoin bros in denial. And if what you say is true, why not just use fiat, they gonna get you anyway right?

Why is Monero privacy only for people who use darknet? Its such a silly logic to say you prefer Bitcoin as it has weaker privacy/darkenet associations. kind of begs the question, why not use something even LESS private and LESS darknet asociated like paypal or visa. Either you want good privacy or you don't. Privacy isn't only for darknet users, its for law abiding citizens too . If you don't want privacy what IS the point in bitcoin? Just to profiteer at rising prices? Because that is its only remaining utility if privacy is not.

I responded to your Monero comment and didn't say a single word about samourai or your beloved brown knots in my original comment. But youre still seething too hard about someone else in another comment thread to read correctly. Yes, you should pay attention. Yea that's very different from me saying that I said you can "stop a monero update" by swapping (All we have to do is scroll up and read to prove you wrong).

How do Monero users "swim through swamps of KYC" if it is delisted everywhere? Choose an argument. Are we "celebrating being delisted" everywhere? Or are we not being delisted? Make up your mind. The fuck. You can use a DEX, you don't have to KYC and bend over every time they ask you to. But hey man if thats your thing I'm not judging.

Your entire LN rube goldberg network that no one uses without custodians or LSPs that can see everything they do is a tenth the size of Monero. Liquid is 99.9% empty blocks. And all your coinjoin protocols combined are still smaller than Monero. It's sad. Bitcoin is 99% p2p larps, speculators, and tradfi.

We can pick apart the totally bullshit "70% self run" LN nodes by just looking at how many Bitcoin nodes exist vs Bitcoin users. You're telling me that even though only a tiny fraction of Bitcoin users run their own simple nodes...those same users suddenly decide to deal with all the complexities of running an LN node? What are you smoking? Sounds fun

I'll humor you. Let's say that were true. Sybil attacks have absolutely zero effect on Monero encrypted amounts and receivers, but you're probably too stupid to know that. "Hey some user sent Monero", "How much?", "Dunno", "To who?", "Dunno". Sounds devastating! lmfao

Meanwhile poor saps are being thrown in prison for a Bitcoin transaction they made 10+ years ago (not hypothetical).

The computer you're running your bitcoin wallet or node on has AMD or Intel chips, genius. Vast majority of ASICs come from two manufacturers so I guess that makes us both huh?

https://bitnodes.io/

https://liquid.network/blocks

https://x.com/mikehassard/status/1767596230299824555?s=20

https://www.torekeland.com/roman-sterlingov/

the lightning network and setting up nodes are even harder to understand and set up than bitcoin and bitcoin nodes. the idea that this is going to improve bitcoin usage among normal people is a farce, the only way it *might* is with custodial garbage like WoS and alby. And even that isnt likely as you still have to get bitcoin before you can get sats/ via LN. LN network is devolving bitcoin, not evolving it. It is lamer than paypal, that has less cons.