I think his point was to demonstrate lack of internal consistency, and I think he's being facetious to try to demonstrate that the theory around it is a bunch of inconsistent corner case justifications and there's no rhyme or reason to any of it.

I am asking honest questions, but I am doing so to try to understand *your* reasoning, not to understand communism, I already thoroughly understand it. And I'm hoping, in having to articulate answers to my questions, you'll understand it more clearly and come to the same conclusion I did, that it is senseless. I don't like to do the usual thing where I shit on people, I like to have sincere discussion and maybe I learn something and maybe other people do. I am always open to the possibility that it isn't senseless and that I am wrong.

Explaining it to people while claiming you don't agree with it is like explaining the rationale behind astrology while claiming you don't agree with it; if you don't agree with it it is because it makes no sense to you at all. It's really impossible to explain methodically or rationally something that doesn't make any sense.

if the price goes up some people won't be able to afford the goods, and thats were the problem of capitalism arrises (assuming this is an essential good)

But, we do that now with just about everything and stuff gets produced just fine. People don't slack off because they have a personal investment in their work, no threat of Siberia required. If there's a shortage, people are incentivized to produce because prices go up and it's profitable, no central planning required. Wouldn't you rather have a self organizing, distributed system than one with all kinds of administration overhead and central points of failure and misaligned incentives?

You say you're not advocating it, just explaining it, but can't you see how it's senseless?

Monero Mavrick

@MoneroMavrick

There is 0 risk in holding Monero.

The worst has already happened and it's proven that it can survive that which no other crypto could.

-Delistings across the board in every country and exchange

-Dark web completly ditched bitcoin for it

-IRS bounty

-People want to use it and when given the option, they if not always choose to pay with Monero.

-Its been able to bounce back from everything thrown at it

-Constant development

-Monero circular economy

-Theres no killing this coin!

Brazil 🇧🇷 could probably benefit from some nostr guerrilla marketing.

Yes, you read that correctly.

Monero vs Harris vs Trump

It is a complicated topic and most wives pretend like it isn't a problem, but the high female divorce rate and young womens' increasing reluctance to marry, speak for themselves.

It doesn't help much, to tell young women that they will benefit in 30 or 40 years because:

1) young women live in the moment and often have trouble imagining anything beyond a few years

2) they see lots of women who made the choice and then ended up alone, anyway

3) the caveat, that the effort is worth it only if the marriage is "healthy" is very discouraging, as they know so many people who have struggled with their marriages

4) a lot of them live geographically-separated from their parents, so the concept that children will "be around later" doesn't ring true to them.

People have been attempting to raise the appeal to young women with big, fancy weddings and bachelorette parties, and etc. but I don't know how effective that has been and young couples are increasingly too poor for that.

I'd just go to microsoft and let them censor/shutdown github.

Still don't understand how pople don't see this obvious attack vector.

Are there any similar protocols/networks that can thrive under very adversarial conditions that are live today and can be used as inspiration?

They've done that this year against Monero. It survived.

You can threaten popular apps like Primal and so on to introduce backdoors, you can threaten popular nodes to censor texts.

What you can't do is stop them. Someone, somewhere will host a node with the forbidden texts and our apps will still be able to reach them.

It won't be shutdown, albeit you are right they will try their best to break it.

All of the nostr apps can be counted. It’s not that big of an effort to threaten every single app.

The same goes for relays.

I think people are delusional to think nostr can’t be effectively shut down.

This is exactly why I could never justify making a serious investment in YouTube, and also why I have stopped spending any time or resources on Twitter too.

It always felt like an impossible gamble. It’s like building a house in a hurricane zone that you KNOW cannot survive a hurricane, and that there is no way to insure. Life might be great, but eventually, and inevitably, a hurricane WILL come and you are just going to lose it all.

It is literally slavery if something you invested years of your life and tens of thousands of hours into can be taken from you by someone else arbitrarily, unilaterally, without recourse, without difficulty, and without even the mildest of concern from the person who can basically destroy your social existence and livelihood.

Everything is ultimately worthless if we don’t have freedom. nostr:note1u2qh3ns7ucnultwhd5h553psy404wn60jthadhgt7dfr934vs00qawypln

NOSTR fixes this

You can't force governments to use Bitcoin.

You can't force people to use Bitcoin.

And if you're relying on the political process to secure Bitcoin then it is unnecessary because that is what fiat already is - money secured by politics.

No privacy is what makes Bitcoin powerful. The goal is to push adoption of Bitcoin until governments, banks and corporations are forced to use it. Basically the world will be forced to use it. Then we the people will be able to monitor the governments, banks & corporations activities and track their corruption and end it and hold bad actors accountable.

Building on shitcoins is slowing down this adoption it's also driving the sheep into the shitcoins losing all their money.

Do we the people need privacy? Absolutely. As more layers get built for Bitcoin privacy will be built as well.

It's coming but governments get no privacy.

Bitcoin is going destroy their corruption and not allow them to ever get massive as they are today.

Bitcoin is the future and anyone who is not building around Bitcoin is wasting their time and not contributing to humanity.

And what is the relation with Monero? The original Post was only about Monero.

You're using a primals custodial lightning wallet

A 3rd party can still see them which is no different from traditional banks. Privacy from the general public, but not the bank (and any potential 3-letter agencies that "persuade" them)

Which Nostr clients do that, again? Its not really an issue once they all do

Trump can setup his own relay. Then he can choose to not ban himself. He could probably easily afford a large network of relays worldwide.

Unlike mastodump, his relay network can't be "cut off" because clients contact relays directly.