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Yeah, kinda like a hardware wallet, but since it can drive itself away, it could also turn into a hard "where wallet?!?!" situation

neovim is based. If you do any development, I also recommend a nice plugin framework like AstroNvim

Why would they want to? I assume Facebook is trying to capture the ad revenue that Twitter lost when it became an unverified imposter cesspool. Nostr would get in the way of them curating the feed for advertisers.

I expect we agree about more than we disagree. Sorry if our wires got crossed. PV 🤙

I'm happy to continue the discussion about Bitcoin's fungibility if you care. I'm not really interested in playing word games about mental constructs and civil disobedience here, but maybe someone else wants to chat you up about that. Sorry if that upsets you.

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I understand the perspective on objective fungibility (and its definition) that you are correctly describing. But it’s also (and only) true based on the system in which our experience and interaction occurs. That is to say because there is a massive set of agreed upon premises; that is the way fungibility works.

But just as with any concept, mental framework and most particularly societal heuristics, it is A) an entity of the mind (you can’t touch fungibility) and B) only remains true/valid until a consciousness revolution takes place.

I want you to know I’m sort of playing devils advocate here but Id ask you to broaden your threshold for possible simultaneous accurate perspectives. Its a basic tenant of Bitcoin that it holds a mirror up to the house of cards that fiat is. Its BTC 101 to understand that a 20 dollar bill is actually just a piece of paper. Its not the paper that is of valuable material; it’s the belief behind it. The collective acceptance that how ever many jumps down the layered money line, there’s a backing at the end transmitting assurance of value.

There are people in tribes that no doubt would see a dollar bill as just paper. And as current events and inflation show, the value and regard for those USD is changing, globally. But they are all still the same pieces of paper.

so, accepting what I just laid out as true and valid; you can’t talk ab money without including consideration for value. And value being also a mental construct is subject to change, conscious or un.

so yes it would be ideal that Bitcoin would receive a BIP that increased it fungibility; but I prefer to recognize another core aspect of Bitcoin. It is not an asset or entity under the umbrella of the current monetary system, or even societal perspective. It is a separate and closed system all of its own.

because of this I argue that there’s actually nothing a government can do that’s any different that a basic street mugger. They can make labels and lists and say any coins that exhibit x,y,z. are illigitimate: but that carries no weight in the Bitcoin network. They aren’t going into the code and altering it to reflect their preferences. Thier demands and regulations only exist in their fiat world and fiat brains.

You are not wrong. But I’m absolutely correct as well. Society is nothing if not a set of unwritten, agreed upon rules.

I'm not saying lists aren't a construct of the mind. Sure, you cant touch a list or kill a list, but how does that relate to the discussion? The entire notion of money is a mental construct, but that doesn't change the fact that some design choices are better than others...

Fungibility (be it a mental construct or not) does not exist for Bitcoin, but does exist for cash/coins/Monero. It would be better if Bitcoin was fungible. I, like the OP, would like to see renewed interest in improving Bitcoin's fungibility

Sure, you'll have to get used to the settings menu being at the top of the screen instead of the bottom, and some other silly UI differences like that, but if you can get past the "I don't know where to find the xyz button" phase, you'll find that GrapheneOS has all the same great features (and then some!) and an equally great experience to use those features. You will just need to spend some time retraining your brain from Apple's flavor of UI.

PSA: attn Apple users. As you prepare to lose access to zaps, consider the following formula:

Apple + Zaps + FOSS - censorship = GrapheneOS

GrapheneOS on a flagship Google Pixel offers a flagship user experience (and yes I've daily driven a flagship iPhone to compare against), but without the censorship and authoritarianism of Tim Apple.

grapheneos.org

#zaps #nostr #grownostr #zapathon #bitcoin #plebchain

OK, so you're saying "so what if they blacklist some coins. We wont give a fug what lists they make." I love that spirit 💪, but surely it would be better if no lists could be made in the first place, right?

I'd rather the FBI didn't know whose door to kickdown. I'd rather thieves couldn't learn how much bitcoin I have.

A serial number is not a record. If bill 1234 changes hands from Alice to Bob to Charlie to Dave to Eric, Eric only knows that he received the bill from Dave. The history of transactions from Alice to Dave are unknown to Eric or anyone else. The bank of course will know Alice withdrew the bill and Eric deposited the bill, but no other information exists.

Bitcoin, on the other hand, shares publicly for all to see, that Alice gave a coin to Bob, then Bob to Charlie, then Charlie to Dave, etc forever until the coins are destroyed or mixed.

Hopefully you can see that Bitcoin is fundamentally non-fungible while cash is.

Bitcoin maximalism is a good thing, but too many people use it as an excuse to ignore Bitcoin's shortcomings (e.g. fungibility & scalability).

A smart maximalist acknowledges the shortcomings and works to improve on them.

A retard maximilist will deny existence of any shortcomings and urge people to buy more at all costs, like a sleazy used car salesman.

Don't be a retard maxi. Think critically. Identify areas for improvement and work to fix them.

#bitcoin #plebchain