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First time I see my #Jellyfin #Storage actually increase as I add stuff - Switching from #x264 to #AV1 preferred over #x265 is great. Single #media file? Not much difference maybe (few GBs). But when you're talking TBs of #data, it really adds up.

I agree, and is why I suggested the crux of nostr's decentralisation potential is exactly that - It doesn't need Bitcoin's level of decentralisation, and yet might get close.

Even though you don't need it, the more decentralised it is, the more resistant it is to censorship, and the more powerful personal data sovereignty becomes - There is no real disadvantage here.

You're right in that Mastodon's level of decentralisation is likely to be sufficient for #nostr (which it has already surpassed) - The issue between the two though isn't the level of #decentralisation, but rather the level of data sovereignty, as you suggest.

I ran a #Mastodon server, and saw the problems right away - Unless you run your own server, you have no real data sovereignty.

Compare that to simply keeping hold of a private key (that can be kept or potentially even remembered) that can be connected to any relay at any point in time to pull back your info - Much closer to Bitcoin's way of doing things. Your data isn't in that private key, it's unlocked by it, and lives privately amongst an ever-increasing number of global nodes.

I think as a protocol, nostr already hits all the boxes - At this time it's about building the applications and experiences people want on top of it. The network effect has been clear in just a few months.

What worries me is the fact that simplex is VC-backed. That comes with a ton of pressures and one commitment - profit. You can't stay ethical if profit is a focus and one has a board to answer to.

It being open-source isn't a silver-bullet either, I can only imagine, if the time comes, when a fork is necessary and the amount of friction that'll cause for both users as well as server self-hosters.

That's where the distinctions lie - Applications vs Protocols.

I think protocol interoperability is a stretch-goal once at least two such protocols stabilise their respectively, sufficiently, large userbases and have sufficiently different things to offer - The reason I don't expect this to happen (at least not anytime soon) is because developers will eventually go where the incentives are better for them and will build there, making "jumping ship for a different experience" moot, because it'll likely already be there.

As for whether it'll be #nostr, that remains to be seen. But I believe out of the current such protocols, it has the best chance.

It's a well known fact that Bitcoiners have made nostr their home. #Bitcoin is the most decentralised protocol network on the planet, and that was a happy accident, it won't happen again. Given this, most Bitcoin enthusiasts are likely to run a Bitcoin node and will eventually encounter nostr. If one runs a Bitcoin #node, and knows about nostr, they'll also be more likely to running a nostr #relay. The crux is nostr doesn't require that level of decentralisation simply due to a lack of trust necessary against relays in the first place, and yet (perhaps ironically) has the best chance of reaching it. Which in this case won't be an accident.

Community creation over at Satellite.Earth & Zapddit is exploding!

Setting the groundwork for awesome onboarding gateways for new users in the #RedditExodus.

Given I'll never have to choose between the two (or more that show up), and neither will you, #nostr just wins.

#Grownostr #SatelliteEarth #Zapddit

I've been looking at https://zapddit.com and quite enjoying the potential it has. #Zapddit

I also recently found https://satellite.earth #SatelliteEarth.

The potential is huge.

On Nostr, we have different apps giving unique experiences, and then we have apps providing familiar ones - The user never loses, stick to whichever you prefer, and I'll see you there, even if I prefer another, we'll still communicate regardless.

#GrowNostr

Can start one on Zapddit.com.

It's the Nostr network, all the same content and users, but delivers the experience in a more discussion-based format.

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Summary of my thoughts regarding Threads UX:

1. Easy to get started ONLY if you have instagram. I don’t think there’s any other option to sign up. This feels weirdly gated and unpleasant.

2. An option to easily import info from instagram seems smart and convenient

3. The overall layout is clean, minimal and easy to familiarize with. I like that there are not too many options to overwhelm the sense.

4. The UI seems to encourage mindless engagement. As Mike Brock stated, it feels very much like TikTok - and endless stream of consumption, encouraging you to doom scroll forever. The feed seems to prioritize media content (especially video). I did not see many photos. Of course, this is mixed in with other short and shallow commentary.

5. I saw very little engagement in terms of replies. Most engagement is likes. This confirms my belief that Threads is a zombie doom scroller’s app. It seeks to extract your time, preferences and information and cares little about actual conversations. You have to have a big account with many followers to see much in terms of replies. Nostr is significantly better at meaningful interactions, but this could be in part because we’re so small.

6. The reload animation is very delightful. I like the micro interactions on the like button and the reload. Hope all nostr clients consider micro interactions.

7. The threading of replies is simple and intuitive. Obviously biased, but feels almost identical to Snort reply system I designed a while back, but faster / smoother (I think this is super important and what sets Threads apart).

8. The video in the feed does not feel as immersive as Damus, but works well.

9. I like how Threads handles multiple images in an easy to swipe gallery that spans the entire screen. Feels very clean and smooth.

10. The consistency between the web version and the app version is great and I think it’s important in onboarding people. Right now we have Damus and Amethyst ( I believe) both linking out to Snort and this could be a very confusing experience for users. Maybe we could make a more generic client that can be used for linking without any branding or particular styling?

11. Threads offers plenty of sharing options. The share button is within the reactions menu which is great as this minimizes any additional clicks. Many nostr clients hide the share button (primarily because we have an extra one for zaps which already makes everything look busy). We should think about how to make sharing more prominent.

12. Threads has an invite friends feature which I also like. I hope we can think about ways to make inviting more user friendly and more obvious (maybe even gamified a bit). There’s no reason a client could not give out a badge for people who invite x number of people for example.

13. One strange thing is that there are no hashtags on Threads. It is a person search and follow app. You literally cannot search for topics. This just further reinforces my belief that this app is made for maximum consumption and doesn’t really care if it’s good for humanity. Maybe it’s a planned feature for later? Who knows.. I suspect not.

14. The app over is very fast and snappy. This makes for a pleasant browsing experience and encourages to keep scrolling. There’s very little noticeable lag of any kind. I think performance is a key thing here and we can all take away from that. How do we make nostr apps smoother?

Overall I felt that the app UX and UIs are excellent. You can tell a team of professional designers poured their hearts and talent into this app.

However, the app design choices seem to push the content into the mindless doom scrolling generic category where engagement is not really encouraged or valued. To me this feels like a net negative to society.

I honestly don’t know how Zuck can sleep at night knowing this is what he is enabling, but appreciate the work by done Meta designers (however negative the consequences, you have to give them credit for creating a very smooth, simple and intuitive experience). nostr:note198vhslkxp2f6xyuyshzh777u7gtyawqr4mle2kvxs9gp6x0hajzsvw688s

I thought a Facebook account would give you access to any Meta-based app from Whatsapp and Facebook to Instagram and Threads?

Is that not the case anymore, or maybe it never was? (I haven't used Meta/FB stuff in over 10 years..)

This looks gooooood...

Dunno if it's been mentioned, but observation (I'm not a UX designer, so apologies for the terms used):

On the last pane to the right, if the purple vertical line delimits where panels extend, and the purple button is used to pull that, it would be great to have the button itself be freely moved by the user up or down.

When I first looked at this the first thing I thought to do was resize the panels as I see fit, followed by pulling the purple button all the way down - This way I always know where it is, when I need it, but it's not in the way either.

I suppose there's an upside to #Meta releasing #Threads - As much as it is about pulling the #Twitter userbase, they may also end up further fragmenting their own userbase.

They're doing something right though - Same identity, same ecosystem, different experiences. But as we know, open networks always win. #Nostr is doing the same, but on an open network.

We'll eventually reach the point of asking "Okay, but why Threads or #Facebook, and not [Insert Nostr App Here that offers a similar experience]?", considering you retain a singular identity, but the rate at which open networks are able to produce and improve experiences becomes much faster than closed networks.

If you ever need to jump-boat from a Nostr app, your followers, userbase, content, identity, all follow you seamlessly. Try doing that when going from Twitter to Facebook or vice-versa.

To add to the above, nostr:npub1c0mpgcqpvffz4wmd0cmx8dzxtm9fukyz5yugx0n73fzzptlusnfqrns0qs

Unfortunately right now the easiest, most frictionless way of *receiving* Zaps on Nostr is via custodial wallets.

Refer here for a table on current adoption status:

https://github.com/andrerfneves/lightning-address

Personally I send via Phoenix and I've made a WoS strictly-receiving wallet, and redirect my personal domain to the one provided to me by WoS, there are some good guides out there on how to do this if you're looking for something a little more personal (as a quick overview for anyone wondering, host a web proxy and redirect the personal user@domain to the one provided by WoS via a .well-known direction)

Good point! They're seperate entities but overlap in some topics - Indeed, IPs are IANA's domain.

Okay, here's a question..

Is it possible to quote on #Snort?

I can boost..

And I can quote OR boost via #Amethyst, but can't quite find the quote option on Snort.

#Nostr.

Welcome!

This is the way.

If you're unhappy with a platformand have recognised the recurring issues, don't just jump-boat - Actually look at the issues and what alternatives solve them, and with what trade-offs.

https://www.heynostr.com/

Nostr has everything going for it when looks at through the lens of hindsight and lessons learned from other platfom failures.

And get a lightning wallet so we can ⚔ zap ⚔ you!

I don't think that's accurate. If a centralised service deems it so, you may not only lose your IP provided by ICANN, but you'll lose your entire history of content on said platform and your digital identity.

Whereas if you take as many dependencies out of the equation and decentralise, you can reliably keep your content, and your identity. Your domain name? Use another one (we've seen this does work over time and feel do end up using provided mirrors if the platform provides value, ie, TPB and others).

Your IP? Much harder to work around, but who's to say 1. An alternative protocol isn't made in the face of necessity? or 2. You get hold of a "still whitelisted" IP and tunnel it for obfuscation - Again, a la Tor, which isn't perfect at all, and yet helps millions already circumvent authorities when needed.

Either way, I'd prefer to know my content remains somehow accessible, my idenitity remains intact and I at least hold a chance to get back to it and continue to build. Wouldn't you?

I don't think it's so much about obsessing over not being dependant on global authorities, as it is about lessening the amount of dependencies on centralised authorities that historical have or may have exercised a form of absolute power regardless of the people's interest.

If Nostr succeeds with relays hosted by independent ISPs both on ground and via satellite, backed by different forms of energy inflow and its only dependency is the ICANN, that'll be a monumental, historical victory for all the world to witness.