Nostr new milestone : It's just passed the Bechtel Test :-)

Chillin'

https://youtu.be/MlEJeZcvK4g

We're British dear boy. We don't drink our own urine. IIRC they had heard that the key compounds were in the skin and should be lightly toasted. How accurate this was, no idea. This was BG - Before Google - when the we used to make 200 mile round trip to specialist libraries for some things. I really can't believe we did that!

Guys, can someone lasso the bitcoin and haul it back up. Cheers.

Takes me back to a weekend of LARPING in the woods, late 80's at night and some people decided to experiment with those. Dose cautious, so, no trips to ER, but also, no trips.

Inches don't exist because since they can be infinitely subdivided they must be infinitely long.

The hardware/bandwidth cost numbers floating around are low. But they don't allow for time and management overhead. My take is 4000pm will be where we come in, with paid servers looking after 2000ish users because management overhead is essentially a fixed cost from when you have to commit to full time, to when you hit the number of users a "one of you" can support. That number MIGHT be in the tens of thousandss, and if so, the cost per user will fall. Long term when Relays are Utilities, probably 1000-2000sats per month. Remember Relays are the only people in the system that everyone with a copyright grievence or legal phaff can find and sue and so dealing with that crap will be unavoidable, and have to paid for.

As every garage mechanic ever always says, "it's not the parts, it's the labour" :-)

You're a braver man than I. 4K paywall in https://nostr.naut.social mainly to limit expense exposure and reduce chances of exceeding resources without warning. Right now, sending all to Turkey anyway.

It will be subscription based. Current model, well everyone here is early and should understand that payments are donations to let relays explore real costs.

There are numbers floating around, but they are purely for the metal, and NOT for management time.

FWIW I pitched mine https://nostr.naut.social at 4000 because that's my best guess as to what a real monthly cost would be.

Watching logs as we speak :-)

If notes had a language tag, relays could choose to be language(s) specific, as per the needs of those who connect.

Right now Spanish public free relays must have 500 notes in Chinese and English for every Spanish one, and god help anyone trying to serve the Welsh or Lithuanians, for example. So much overhead they can't afford at scale.

Yes, but everything high profile is getting hammered, and we're paying how much? Clients need to move to PC software, or we need to start paying.

and lo, behold the new file uploader in Nostrgram

relay.spiritual.peace - where you can read but cannot write :-)

Trying to find which of my Snort relays is letting in the spam...

Sats for Turkey

Today I rolled out nostr.naut.social, a 4000sat relay.

All monies from joins today will be sent to Turkey Relief.

You core problem is that you are trying to use a product that includes an entire audit trail BY DESIGN to try and stay under the radar.

The moment you exit via any interaction with fiat that isn't cash, or you purchase anything that comes with a trail (property, cars) etc even if you have secure to that point, you just blew yourself up. IF anyone is looking, and those, computers are looking.

On an exchange you are not hiding in the crowd any more than banking in a big bank hides you in the crowd of other customers. Their literal job is know whose money is whose and be able to prove it to auditors.

If you want to stay legal, find out your local rules, and use them. I can bury tens to hundreds of thousands in gains totally legally tax free. My payoff is unlikely to hit 7figs but if it did, i could spend time in warm places and cash out tax free.

Don't be a small time tax evader. They are the ones who get caught.

But Snort also won't open some DMs...

What is your threat model?

Private acquire isn't really the problem. It's the spending that will get you, if there is a serious threat actor.

For new people. https://naut.social/getting-started-with-nostr/

Demon was the first UK ISP. £10pm for 14.4k dialup

I was customer 6000 and change in 1993 I think.

Social media back then was Usenet :-)

When I rolled out moneyweb.co.uk on a shared host on Demon my logs for the first week showed 20 visitors. I was ELATED!

A few years later, 40,000 a week.

Nostr has the same buzz as those early Net days :-)

Bigger money should be in things like Electrum wallets - on chain so can be rebuilt from the seed words, and serious money should in cold storage devices or even a paper wallet in your safe.

https://nostr.naut.social but y'all knew that 'cause you're the hot cool early people, like me :-)

So like wss://filter.nostr.wine/#[2]?broadcast=true ? Astral seemed to take it (long npub) so did Nostrgram. Snort, not.

2, Nostrgram

BBC Radio currently demolishing Andrew Tate.

All the paid relays I joined and added on astral and snort now show up on Nostrgram in paid relays. This is like magic :-)

Anyone here now can write "First 0.001% of adopters" confident that by the time they send the CV off next week it will be true :-)

Snort does

On the relay front, do you think they are people or bots?

Price is 10x, and refund 9x if we approve you. If we don't, we keep your money for wasting our time. So sue us.

You're a trusted chap in this bar, and spammers might drop vast sats on you before they work it out.

Tell you need to take a break, without telling me you need to take a break :-)

It's not so much how high that worries me. It's how shallow...:-)