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Loving Nostr... I run a UK relay (the first UK Paid Relay) at https://nostr.naut.social Price 4000sats. Which Paid Relays to join? Ones near you, (for speed), some around the world, (for reach). Ones focussed on specific interests/groups you like, (not sure if any exist yet, but they will)

No idea. Seemed very formal and I was pissed off by then. I've never reacted well to academia...(years ago a Uni suggested my work should be written up as a PhD. Then they asked who would referree it. I suggested that was a them problem, but there wasn't anyone who as much about the subject as me. There were literally only 2 of us in the field, and we were competitors..end of chat:-)

For those interested in relay running costs and revenues.

Running a relay in the 20's on the list - wss://nostr.naut.social, about half my daily cloud costs are being covered by the 4000 buy in (1-3 a day).

UK relay, so good for Brits, Europeans and those who love them :-)

It was really for the Google ranking. Give the curious a plain overview that they could trust because, wikipedia. but hey ho

Brit BTC holders. £20000. Luvly Jubbly.

Thought for the Day : Antivaxers with cars obsessed with what they see as a possible technological harm, haven't thought through which tech they should be opposed to...

I was on this part of your page.

ArchLinux: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gossip or https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gossip-git

Debian: See the https://github.com/mikedilger/gossip/releases area for a file named something like gossip-VERSION-ARCH.deb.zip

Microsoft Windows: See the https://github.com/mikedilger/gossip/releases area for a file named something like gossip-VERSION.msi.zip

have grabbed file you linked to :-)

One day Bitcoin price action will be dull, dull, dull.

This is will be a good thing. Think about it :-)

I'm the author of gossip, a desktop client not a mobile app, but I have someting to say on this. Gossip downloads only about 4MB when I start it in the morning and run it for an hour. Since that is several orders of magnitude less than some other clients, I thought I'd make a list as to why:

1. Duplicate Events - many clients subscribe to the same filters on all of the "read" relays. So if a person has 10 read relays, they get each event 10 times. They could subscribe in a way that only gets N copies, where N is set in some setting somewhere (gossip defaults to 2 or 3).

2. Not Dynamically Connecting to Relays - when clients don't dynamically connect to the 'write' relays of whoever you follow, users are incentivized to add lots and lots of relays as a hack to try to get that content, aggrevating issue 1. If clients smartly went to the write relays (based on relay lists), all of the content a user has subscribed to would arrive (in best case scenario) and users would no longer feel the need to add massive numbers of read relays.

3. Counting how many followers you have is expensive. Kind-3 contact lists are long, and you need to pull one for each follower to make such a count. Especially if done across many relays (where the same ones are pulled multiple times, once per relay), this could be 10-20 MB on it's own. Then how often is the client triggered to recount?

4. Downloading of avatars: gossip caches these so it doesn't have to re-download them. Any client that uses an IMG tag and doesn't have a browser caching is probably downloading these over and over, at worst case every time a post scrolls into view.

5. Content images and content web page pre-rendering: This can be very expensive, but is probably unavoidable on rich UI clients. Gossip is a "poor" UI client, without any images or prerendered links (it just shows links that you can click on to open your browser). But with caching, repeated downloading of the same thing can be avoided.

6. Re-checking of NIP-05 could be done periodically, perhaps daily if it failed or every 2 weeks if it passed, probably the worst strategy is every time a post scrolls into view.

There are probably others.

Sent some sats, went to try it but the windows link 404's...

Todays Tune is a little number by a local lad.

He has been traduced by a bunch of rebels who changed the words.

https://youtu.be/ydAIdVKv84g

I spoke too soon. In nostream setup so in tmux ./sripts/start

no such file or directory. Google only suggests that no tmux is running. hmmmm

#[0] ?

We are people. We are bloody minded. We are messy.

As to social graphs I was writing articles on the interaction between the maths of networks and the biological functions of strong signals for a project that, died when my partner, the coder, died. 2001...

Key maths is Reed's Law, basically conversations give networks a complexity of 2 to the N, whereas Metcalf (value of a network to it's member) is a N squared.

I know that some people try and use some technical definition of a zap, but most of us are using it to mean any sending of sats over Nostr. Because we're not technical. Also, most people are not very concerned about serious privavcy, rightly concluding that even the most horrible Gvt only has resources for people operating outside "limits". For SOME people the Gvt is the threat (I know people killed by their Gvt, my ex wife stood in front of the Russian army the day after they shot and killed 20 people in Vilnius), but for most of us, Gvts are annoying, not lethal.

The Internet can. The Internet does. But individual people do not have the bandwidth to do more than choose which small parts appeal to them. And that is totally their right.

Nostr (and the Internet) enables, but cannot force.

I grew up when international communication was a pen pal. It's better now. Or is it? the ROI in my case was a wife, a friend of one the people I wrote to :-)

You BOTH have to have ONE (or more) Relays in common.

Spam. So far spammers seem reluctant to pay. So paid relays basically spam free.

The ones run by devs wide open (so the spam comes in) I think a lot of that is to give the devs adverarial stuff on which to practice antispam ideas, all power to them :-)

Yes. Descriptive tags for relays - country, language, moderation policy, fee structure, community served (if any), then someone will build tools that make it easy for people to find their people.

We do not all need to be connected to everyone. We need to quickly connect with "our group", and after that, if we realise we need to go further, e.g. read a paper, search their pubkey, if if no relays in common, see a selection to join.

True, but zaps across borders, who cares? Could send direct to Iranians, Chinese, Russians (the good ones).