nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 Was about to mention that GnuCash would often get mentioned, but then was reminded that we use Odoo at work for inventory management.
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I don't need inventory management, but they're high up on my list of solutions to investigate, thanks. :)
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I've been using a combination of Denaro and LibreOffice Calc for the occasional spreadsheet.
There's also GNU Cash, but I don't have much experience with it.
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Someone on this thread shared an excellent post from Linux Weekly News about using GnuCash as their main business accounting software.
It seem very capable, but the import process form QuickBooks is kinda fiddly. It also seemed like creating check formats for printing was a bit difficult. It's on my second tier to investigate further. I've played with it here and there over the years.
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I've heard also good things about #Tryton by nostr:npub14n87ave7ejan5867kpw6dl4f8rz8ahgy5m9fc9urgjsch830qz7sesfjgz, an #Odoo (formerly known as #OpenERP (formerly known as #TinyERP)) fork. No own experience whatsoever.
#Python #accounting
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Honestly, while I love using plain text for my todos and time tracking (todo.txt plus some plugins/scripts as well as my own little bodgy front-end bash functions for more features), I don't really want to use plain text for business accounting. It's just... *so* mutable. I won't argue based on the performance of using a DB vs. basically grepping through a text file, but I just don't want my accounting data to be *that* easily changed.
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But for personal finance, that looks pretty slick.
I think for FOSS cloud-based solutions, akaunting and odoo are looking pretty good.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 I feel this pain. I use Wave from H&R Block, but would love something that doesn’t feel like a loss leader for their real business.
I really wish there was a *ledger that had a nice UI for folks who don’t live in vi or emacs. Something like YNAB but using text instead of a database.
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Honestly, while I love using plain text for my todos and time tracking (todo.txt plus some plugins/scripts as well as my own little bodgy front-end bash functions for more features), I don't really want to use plain text for business accounting. It's just... *so* mutable. I won't argue based on the performance of using a DB vs. basically grepping through a text file, but I just don't want my accounting data to be *that* easily changed.
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nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 ... and keep in mind that on most larger ERP systems, you can turn off unnecessary modules if they dont apply.
Each of those linked software have self-hosted downloads to load/run in-house at zero cost.
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Ah, that's cool. I don't anticipate self-hosting, but it's nice to know that it's open. :)
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 ... you don't mention what sort of module support might be needed, like full-on ERP, or Distribution, Manufacturing, Payroll, etc., so a lot of soluions available in the FOSS arena just won't be usable as-is when those more specialized requirements can't be plugged into basic 'ledger' accounting to cover specific business types... i.e.,
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Ah, thanks. I've added on to the original post now, but you make a very good point. I wasn't specific enough.
I really just need double-entry accounting, reports, check printing, bank feeds a plus, and bank reconciliation (automatic a plus)
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 We're currently migrating our company to Odoo. There are accounting features, you can have a cloud solution or host in your own server.
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Thanks, they're on my list. I'll give them another look. :)
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 I used nostr:npub1agjhzhe53fygaaf0zrjd6qtv9cwqea9a9md58j6ndfxzm446xtfqc96vdc a while. Found it to much for what I needed but that’s a really good thing in a way.
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I'm not brave enough to self-host an accounting server, but it looks pretty cool.
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 Over the years LWN has had a series of articles as they tried to replace Quickbooks too. They finally settled on a solution a few months ago.
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Ahh, thanks for this. Very good read.
Unfortunately, from the journey they have described, it looks like no FOSS desktop program would be very workable for me, because the process of importing data from the dreaded QB is pretty pear-shaped.
I think I will investigate Akaunting for now, as they have a QB import feature, and I'll try to avoid going to xero, but may end up going there if Akaunting doesn't work out.
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Features I *must* have:
* Double-entry ledger
* Check printing (yes, really ;)
* Reports
* Bank account reconciliation
* Auto reconciliation would be nice
Thank you, #fedi!!!
#FediFriends #AskFedi
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I'm looking for a solution for small business use, so it's not just me that would be potentially using it. I'm tempted by xero, but also looking at akaunting. I'd like to stick to a desktop solution, but unfortunately, the cloud crap is just SO compelling. :P
My primary concerns are:
* FOSS if possible
* Web-based if not
* Easy to use (I love using a text file for everything, but it wouldn't be a good fit for this business use)
* Not evil?!? XD
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 don't use #xero though. Completely overpriced.
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Really? The price seems competitive to most online accounting solutions I've looked at.
I've heard that it has a lot of really slick features.
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I think I've looked at it before. I'll add it to my list of solutions to evaluate, thanks! :)
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 I use Firefly3 for accounting. I transitioned to it from ClickUp year ago and have been liking it so far. I have not done yearly reports so the "true test" is still on the way.
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Cool, I'll check it out. Thanks!
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My brain tends to work well with the "envelope" style (what YNAB uses), the standard "fancy spreadsheet" (used in Gnucash, Skrooge) has never worked for me.
Budget With Buckets has worked pretty well for me:
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Thanks, I'll take a look :)
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 As a suggestion, you could look at https://www.frontaccounting.com/ and host on your local machine/server or run your own server on the net.
Generally quite good but localizing for VAT and stuff was more involved when I used it last.
Their demo at https://frontaccounting.com/wbt/pages/home/demo.php will help check it through a bit.
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Thanks, I'll check it out! :)
nostr:npub1l3gpk6vrudg8r67swqlex5alv9ch59s4lw46kk6hekuxe2n3aczsyqvu48 I used Grisbi for non-profits, and now for my own self-employment, but it's GTK2 or so, has some rough edges.
There's also GNUCash, Homebank, Kresus…
You can check this list (in French):
https://framalibre.org/tags/comptabilit%C3%A9
In APT I see also Economize.
For larger businesses there are systems like Odoo or Dolibarr, but they need a server and quite some setup.
I know some people do it in #OrgMode other plain text system: https://plaintextaccounting.org/
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Thanks, I'll check those out. :)