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I aim to be a pleasant Mouse. I'd leave out the part where I think earth would be better off of he went to Mars for five years...

Sats and plants... But I probably in theory could have too many plants. My house could overflow with them...

I was as timid and quiet as a mouse and I can draw one in under three seconds so I drew them everywhere 🤣

Sunshine, snuggles from my cats, my plants, afternoon walks, learning new things

I haven't watched that video in at least 12 months so I'm watching it again too. Fudge explains everything better than I can but I'm surprised that I remember as much as I do.

It sounds to me like you need to pray for God's spirit to be with you when you read your Bible and when you watch Fudge. I can see your passion for Him and for introducing other people to Him. If I can see it then God can too, so He will definitely answer that prayer. Jesus died and as He rose the temple curtain split so everyone could see into the part where only the high priest could go and only once a year. The implication is that those who have repented and been baptised have direct access to God's presence. If you haven't been baptised do it soon in obedience to Jesus and the scriptures. Even if you haven't yet, God won't turn you away if you are earnestly seeking Him in scriptures. Jesus says that he who seeks will find because God is a good Father who faithfully gives good gifts. God bless you.

Those who eat of the tree and who's names are in the Lamb's book of life (people who have a relationship with Him through Jesus and the Holy Spirit and faith) have eternal life with Him for all of eternity. Sorry, apparently I wasn't clear. I meant I don't believe all people are inherently eternal beings, it must be given by God. All else perish.

We aren't inherently immortal no. God kicked Adam and Eve out of the garden because He didn't want them to eat of the tree that would give them eternal life. Ergo, it wasn't there before.

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I will try to watch that video right after I post this. Sorry for not doing it yet.

That pastor is very well respected by some pretty hard core Bible thumping Christians and has been preaching for more than 50 years. I am sure he doesn't get everything right because no one does but he is for sure worth listening to.

Here are some Bible verses showing that hell is eternal

Matthew 25:46

And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Mark 9:47-48

And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, where “‘the worms that eat them do not die, and the fire is not quenched.’

Also here Jesus is not telling us to pluck out our eyes but is making it clear just how serious this is.

2 Thessalonians 1:8-9

8 in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,

This is the example you used

Jude 7

7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire,[a] serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.

notice this says eternal fire, meaning forever of course, not burnt out after a bit.

Revelation 14:9-11

9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

All of this is directly from the Bible and makes it clear hell is for eternity. Do I want there to be a hell, do I want anyone to go there? Of course not! But this is the way our Creator made things and there is nothing I can do about it.

Most of those make my point about destruction of the wicked 🤔

We need forgiveness from sins to have the Holy Spirit in us. We need cleansing with the blood of Jesus just as the atonement lamb cleansed the temple and made it for for God's presence once a year.

The blood of Jesus is like the passover lamb. In Exodus, the Israelites were enslaved by the Egyptians (just like we were enslaved by sin). The final curse before God freed His precious people was the nurse of death to the first born of every creature, cows sheep and men. The Israelites killed a lamb, pasted its blood on their door posts and ate it all. That night the angel of the Lord killed all firstborns except those in houses protected by the blood of the lamb. We were cursed and enslaved we needed the blood of a spotless lamb. Jesus freely gave His to free us from the slavery of sin and the curse of death so believe, repent, and be baptised. That is the gospel. Not God is angry with you and will send you to hell for eternal conscious torment if you don't believe He's so loving He needs to torture His son to let you into His presence.

I tried to watch it I couldn't get far. I used to believe and street evangelise with the exact same theology. It wasn't easy for me to change my mind but it was freeing.

It would be unloving to let unrepentant sinners stay in the presence of God.

I'm not sold on the idea that we are eternal.

But separate from that God doesn't need a firey pit to send people to though. I mean, I wouldn't want to be Hitler in His presence. Hosea, God's chosen prophet cursed himself and said he was from a perverse people the first time he saw God and his ruling council... And that's a man of God, imagine if you'd done evil... But what about a little old granny who did her best and never harmed anyone but also never heard the name of Christ, or only heard it from an abusive priest/pastor/parent so could never believe in His love for herself? I have no real basis other than God's compassion and the fact that His word says that He wills all will be saved. For the granny I suspect there will be a burning off in His presence and if she wants to endure to hang onto the love of God that will be revealed then she can stay... But there's no way say Hitler could hold on, not after the pain and suffering he caused. I believe he will want out of the refining fire of God's presence and that's what he will get ie annihilation. I'm not sold on the idea of a post-mortem chance at salvation. That bit is my opinion I can't back it biblically so I hold it very lightly. All I know is that on that day we will see what God does with unrepentant sinners some of them people who we know and love in this life and will reaffirm His glory, love and justice.

If you had of read the article or watched the Fudge video you would know what my thoughts are. I don't usually spend lots of time contemplating hell I spend time contemplating what Christ's victory means and how I should live in in community in the light of my knowledge and relationship with an awesome loving God.

I'm also not trying to be arguable. I tried to watch the video you sent I got three minutes in before he slandered the amazing character of God too much for me to continue.

No I'm not a universalist. I don't believe that everyone goes to heaven. I believe that that Mat 7:13 says what a plain reading of it means. That those who die without Christ are destroyed.

I believe there is a hell, but I reject any insinuation that God (as one who let's the human image bearers that He created and deeply loves more than I could ever imagine) sends people there to suffer eternal conscious torment. I believe they might go there suffer for their sins, but are then destroyed. Fire consumes, and when it runs out of fuel (or sinfulness) then it goes out. Jude mentions Soddom and Gomorrah in reference to hell and suggests that they are an example of eternal punishment. Are they still there eternally smouldering for us to look at and say, "oh we shouldn't commit sins"? No, they're not. They are consumed for all of eternity.

God accomplished many things by having his Son become incarnate and die on Calvary. Through Christ God revealed the definitive truth about himself (Rom 5:8, cf. Jn 14:7-10); reconciled all things, including humans, to himself (2 Cor 5:18-19; Col 1:20-22), forgave us our sins (Ac 13:38; Eph 1:7); healed us from our sin-diseased nature (1 Pet 2:24); poured his Spirit upon us and empowered us to live in relation to himself (Rom 8:2-16 ); and gave us an example of what it looks like when we live in the kingdom (Eph 5:1-2; 1 Pet 2:21). Yet, I believe all these facets of Christ’s work can be understand as aspects of the most fundamental thing Christ came to accomplish: namely, to defeat the devil and his minions (Heb 2:14; 1 Jn 3:8). He came to overcome evil with love.

Yeah.. I might have to either move it or give this plant set up back to my sister or move it to somewhere nice and high. Those plants are mildly toxic to pets and children if eaten.

Toby has two water bowls but still prefers to drink plant root water 🙄😕 I was wondering why this plant kept running out of water so fast.

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