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Dustin Dannenhauer
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DVM maximalist Building DVMDash - a monitoring and debugging tool for DVMs https://dvmdash.live Live DVM Stats here: https://stats.dvmdash.live Hacking on ezdvm - a python library for making DVMs https://github.com/dtdannen/ezdvm

Purple pilling people at ETHDenver. Still haven’t found a better decentralized AI solution than Nostr DVMs, despite all the shilling.

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Way to brag, not all of us have the latest ergonomic keyboard

Thanks, sorry about that. New site is coming online shortly. If you want to run it locally, the github README instructions should work. It's just a docker compose up call + npm run dev in the frontend folder.

https://github.com/dtdannen/dvmdash

GM. The present moment is inevitable.

Just curious, were you hoping to check metrics or use the graph based debugger tool? I have a new version of the metrics coming soon, but it will be slightly longer before I get the new version of the graph based debugger online.

Yes, thanks for letting me know. I'm just about ready to launch the new version. I'll put that up asap and let you know.

It’s silly to me that I can’t zap everything.

Signal message? Zap

Text message? Zap

GitHub repo? Zap

Can we just make everything that’s digital, zappable?

I think we have new nostrich! I’ll share her npub soon. She was impressed by the zaps.

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I’m demoing Nostr to someone, anyone wanna zap me real quick

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Guys...I had an idea recently that I've been simmering on, and I think I might be onto something big here.

The zapping ecosystem unlocks infinite possibilities for expertise-seekers and expertise-providers to meet for a win-win transaction. But I feel like we haven't even scratched the surface on this in terms of building out an ecosystem of P2P micro-economies through the use of the "#Ask_____" hashtag format.

Imagine... experts of all types, across all fields, aggregating around hashtags according to their skillset, so they can answer plebs' questions, who then zap them for their input.

Examples:

Doctors: #AskDocs

Lawyers: #AskALawyer

Web/App Development: #AskDevs

Need Help Writing: #AskAWriter

Need Relationship Advice: #DatingAdvice #AskAMarriageCounselor

Need General Life Advice: #AskALifeCoach

(Hashtag semantics could be tweaked of course, but you get the idea)

It could also be expanded into freelancing requests, such as:

Need a logo design: #NeedDesigner

Need editing help on a written piece: #NeedEditor

And literally anything else the purple hivemind could think of...

As you can imagine, the depth of which we could take this is infinite. Literally anyone out there with expertise in ANYTHING could bootstrap a hashtag that other nostriches could use if they ever need help. And if lots of other folks do see value in having a channel opened up with a group of experts in that niche, all they have to do is just follow that hashtag, and use it anytime they have a question.

Of course, in order for this to work, Both the experts and the question-askers would have to embrace the concept wholeheartedly, making those hashtags active enough that the experts have enough of a financial incentive to keep that hashtag bookmarked, and actually spend time scrolling through and answering questions. But I think this would fit so well with the Nostr culture, that it has major potential to gain momentum quickly.

We've already seen how popular #AskNostr has been, and that hasn't even had a formal #Value4Value culture around it. It emerged completely organically, exactly how I expect all of these others would, given enough community enthusiasm. Ultimately this whole idea would just be an evolution of the #AskNostr concept—expanding the "#Ask_____" format out to EVERYTHING, with the embedded etiquette that you ZAP those that help you.

Eventually, if it grew big enough, we may see a large enough ecosystem of hashtags emerge that we could have either npubs, or a centralized database that tracks the most popular #Ask_____ hashtags, so the whole community knows which ones are the most active should they ever have a question within that topic. (This would also act as great purple-pilling bait for experts from these fields that aren't on Nostr yet. By joining the protocol, they could then start earning #Bitcoin by participating in this zapping ecosystem, directly with people around the world who are willing to pay for their expertise).

Once this idea gets engrained deeply enough into the Nostr culture, the maintenance of the concept would be quite simple 👇

EXPERTISE-SEEKERS:

- Post your questions, using the corresponding hashtag (ex: for a medical question, #AskDocs)

- Follow good etiquette and zap the doctors who answer your question (perhaps you could also attach a bounty to the note, i.e. "best answer gets a 10K zap")

EXPERTS:

a) Keep tabs on the hashtag corresponding to your field

b) Answer questions

c) Earn zaps ⚡️

d) Optionally, you could also put the hashtag(s) you frequent in your bio, to raise awareness on it (thus bringing more future questions ---> more zaps for you 🔄) so your followers know that's where to go to get advice from you and other experts in your field.

This would be a very interesting free market experiment, which I could see blowing up should both experts and question-askers embrace the idea of an open ecosystem of #V4V help channels.

Since the most obvious example I can think of as a kickoff test would be medical advice from doctors, I will tag in the Nostr docs I know below. I know nostr:nprofile1qqsd7msd66kcej39cpuu0n4ln9jce7gjgz65ck6deyzyytnay95sqhspx9mhxue69uhkummyv5hxxmmfde3hyet9dvhxxmmd9ahx7um5wf3kc6t9de6z7ctsdyhhvvf0wfjkccteqyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvqy38wumn8ghj7mn0wd68yttkv4exjenfv4jzuam9d3kx7unyv4ezumn9wsacwhjf has already been doing exactly what I talked about above on an individual level (answering dentistry questions to anyone who tags him, in exchange for zaps).

What do y'all think about this, nostr:nprofile1qqstzt0wugc7sklvr8e7fcl7ukyn63ym3ns4nmf2mnk0vqnz4l9x65qpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezumtfv3jxc6twvuhx67tydeeju6nsqythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5dacx2arg9e5kuen0te28kw nostr:nprofile1qqsra0r5jp73ly50yz00yy8gwt9vqvl270lcne59x2rdghv3udg7l8spzdmhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2urpvuhx2ue0sv2m5n nostr:nprofile1qqsxknkf3upwv3lqz3qtguammy48lt3puqdk4fkxtcedh99rvzfzwtsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qydhwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgunsd3jkyuewvdhk6tcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuen0w4h8gctfdchxvmgm0eauz nostr:nprofile1qqszjf0k3vznlcvcw4efurpywfannqkegp69kwccfvz5yzqgft6tukcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtc8n0pm0 nostr:nprofile1qqst0xtvrqlqxm0j0qpfgkuqh0wgkzl4judkvgdgd0e4d8pnyytlqlgpz4mhxue69uhhwmm59eekjctdwd68ytnrdakszxthwden5te0wpex2mtfw4kjuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcpz4mhxue69uhhwmm59eek7anzd96zu6r0wd6qu6c2pf nostr:nprofile1qqsdvyenvujkqs4xwae3se2m78ecmrxaj385h2nvpdcw7jcztx227pqprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctvqy28wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hszyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9emkjmn929qg0h? Would you participate in following the #AskDocs hashtag, answering people's questions, and earning extra zaps for it?

I'll leave it here for the Nostr community to discuss. Am I thinking too big, or could this be the next big trend that takes P2P #V4V into another stratosphere?

Share your thoughts below!

Yes! I’ve long wanted a stack overflow with bounties which kind of overlaps. Nostr is the perfect ecosystem. If you pursue this, I’d be interested!

I’d need to look into this a bit more to provide more detail. My quick understanding is that there is some overlap between what these solve. MCP seems to standardize calls with JSON, we get the same effect from DVMs because it’s the Nostr protocol.

MCP is also solving more problems than what I was proposing here, like managing the context window.

I’m not sure how easy MCP enables you to use tools that are not already running as part of your MCP setup. I suspect the automatic use of brand new DVMs is where it would differ.

The scope of MCP is bigger than what I’m talking about for most of the article (except maybe MCP could solve a lot of the Manager DVM part).

I assume MCP doesn’t do payments? DVMs are already less friction than using paid APIs because of this.

2 days into using cline in vs studio rather than copy/pasting from pycharm into Claude UI…. And I think I like the flow better. This is nice for a big code base. Don’t have to leave the editor. More in line code editing.

Still getting used to it and it has a few quirks… but feels noticeably less tedious

To be clear, I don’t mean replicating Nostr.watch. I mean a tool for seeing which relays have DVM events. I’ll miss Nostr.watch though…

No!!! They changed the UI, I was just about to share this with a friend, the old one looked way cooler

if you want this thing to work

you’ll stop promoting nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 ‘s nostrapps

and lead new users towards awesome-nostr instead nostr:note1fc740r08qw53h5p9l6ju9utfnmvr0pgz44x9gvknzp8d7fcrflsqcuh88g

You mean the GitHub repo?