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Chris H
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Innovation & entrepreneurship. chaley@getalby.com cdh1001@ln.tips

IMO, the integration of a token of some kind to reward users for viewing ads isn't crazy - I much prefer it as a business model to their selling my search data - but the time has come to swap BATs for sats.

If Brendan could be persuaded to swap BAT for lightning tips, it would be a phenomenal boost to both Brave & LN. But, as you say, the existing token is a strong counter-incentive, sadly.

My money is on either Sergey Nazarov or the NSA...

#[0] - the iris accounts & NIP05s look promising! But the register button seems not to work, nor the 'Yes, please' button. Presume this is still WIP?

Ha, yes, to an extent. Though I meant that this seems particularly fertile ground for academic economists.

Any economists on Nostr yet? The integration of genuine low-friction micropayments is fascinating - not only for what they enable but also for what they reveal, all with easily-extracted data. I'd have thought it was exactly the kind of thing economists salivated over.

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I'm the author of gossip, a desktop client not a mobile app, but I have someting to say on this. Gossip downloads only about 4MB when I start it in the morning and run it for an hour. Since that is several orders of magnitude less than some other clients, I thought I'd make a list as to why:

1. Duplicate Events - many clients subscribe to the same filters on all of the "read" relays. So if a person has 10 read relays, they get each event 10 times. They could subscribe in a way that only gets N copies, where N is set in some setting somewhere (gossip defaults to 2 or 3).

2. Not Dynamically Connecting to Relays - when clients don't dynamically connect to the 'write' relays of whoever you follow, users are incentivized to add lots and lots of relays as a hack to try to get that content, aggrevating issue 1. If clients smartly went to the write relays (based on relay lists), all of the content a user has subscribed to would arrive (in best case scenario) and users would no longer feel the need to add massive numbers of read relays.

3. Counting how many followers you have is expensive. Kind-3 contact lists are long, and you need to pull one for each follower to make such a count. Especially if done across many relays (where the same ones are pulled multiple times, once per relay), this could be 10-20 MB on it's own. Then how often is the client triggered to recount?

4. Downloading of avatars: gossip caches these so it doesn't have to re-download them. Any client that uses an IMG tag and doesn't have a browser caching is probably downloading these over and over, at worst case every time a post scrolls into view.

5. Content images and content web page pre-rendering: This can be very expensive, but is probably unavoidable on rich UI clients. Gossip is a "poor" UI client, without any images or prerendered links (it just shows links that you can click on to open your browser). But with caching, repeated downloading of the same thing can be avoided.

6. Re-checking of NIP-05 could be done periodically, perhaps daily if it failed or every 2 weeks if it passed, probably the worst strategy is every time a post scrolls into view.

There are probably others.

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Yeah! It's great, though; much healthier incentive for people to spend time here than the clickbait and outrage of the bird app!

Am receiving a variety of errors from #BlueWallet, when I try to tip from within Iris. Errors range from 'bad response from server' to 'invalid user'. Any thoughts on how to troubleshoot?

Brendan Eich here yet? BAT tipping was a neat idea but zaps have taken off 100x faster. Shifting Brave to LN tips would be awesome!

Hmm...you might need to specify the question a bit more.

Do you mean value? There's one set of questions around value: monetary value is one-dimensional, pretty much by definition (i.e. when we pay a monetary sum, it represents our best projection onto one-dimension of the multiple dimensions of the thing we are buying - though we invariably value these imperfectly). How would this work for education, I wonder? Very difficult to assess & collapse those multiple dimensions.

Do you mean long-time repositories of knowledge? How we preserve knowledge over time and prevent corruption (accidental or deliberate) is something that Arweave ethusiasts can comment on.

Or do you mean consensus? There's another set of questions here, but these are even trickier because we struggle to reach consensus as to what constitutes historical truth, or what values & subjects we should teach. These are the domain of messy, human politics, and I don't think blockchain offers tremendous insights here, TBH.

IMO, if you want some Nostr & BTC related topics, it would be better to teach your students about (i) the history of debasement of fiat currency & inflation; (ii) the idea of separation of money & State; (iii) media / institutional capture and the importance of free speech.

Yeah, this is the one thing that should maybe come with a bigger flag for new users. It's online forever. Some clients (e.g. Iris) have a 'delete' button, but as I understand it, that just adds a 'deleted' tag to the original post to tell clients not to display it.