thank you!
📖 Daily Top 10 Zappers:
1. nostr:npub16p8v7varqwjes5hak6q7mz6pygqm4pwc6gve4mrned3xs8tz42gq7kfhdw 2,800,000 sats
2. nostr:npub12r0yjt8723ey2r035qtklhmdj90f0j6an7xnan8005jl7z5gw80qat9qrx 150,253 sats
3. nostr:npub1yw3v7clvs8n92cdv4lr9tzvd9lgw7xgqs3jnlfzjgylhtedr6k7q2hu5xl 55,019 sats
4. nostr:npub1fnspdyh362svdejkxqkkt4t8qvlg53jfsdn3ntxx3v2lcc5rgv8q5x8x8y 51,001 sats
5. nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx 27,451 sats
6. nostr:npub16e3vzr7dk2uepjcnl85nfare3kdapxge08gr42s99n9kg7xs8xhs90y9v6 25,518 sats
7. nostr:npub10mtatsat7ph6rsq0w8u8npt8d86x4jfr2nqjnvld2439q6f8ugqq0x27hf 25,296 sats
8. nostr:npub1kaghm7l8w6nahukc6r5afw57ydtpq2c8jjqfpxzgppghayxctaks4c8vz4 25,170 sats
9. nostr:npub1k5vhp09tjp94t8ug4ag4xlgspkqk88g52a5wve5vtcvxj2ch0hjqtq2mqa 21,210 sats
10. nostr:npub1y2zpas28hknhkl8ppuqshes237x4tg3gp3hkkdpygsqk6yhrauhs8fgtcx 20,000 sats
wow nostr:npub16p8v7varqwjes5hak6q7mz6pygqm4pwc6gve4mrned3xs8tz42gq7kfhdw you outdid yourself!
interesting. Well, I was wrong, thank you for pointing it out
M0 is not that meaningful. M1 or M2 are
yeah, that's how we do it too. I don't get the 5min. You shared previously that pagerank takes about 15s. What am I missing?
The Zap Store is a game changer for the Bitcoin and Nostr communities. Most of the time though, I can't get it to load up. I hope basic functions are more consistent soon. 🙂
https://fountain.fm/episode/QMpqHtHnv1Fl0rsbjSm2
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can you please show a screenshot or error msg? cc nostr:npub1wf4pufsucer5va8g9p0rj5dnhvfeh6d8w0g6eayaep5dhps6rsgs43dgh9
not totally accurate with follows.
See, 133 others I follow follow Vitalik, but mostly to dunk on him.
A follow in general means "not spam for me".
The analysis is accurate, but I don't agree with the framing.
First, trust is a bad term, because it's contextual and therefore ambiguous. A follow represent "I am giving you attention", which means you are not a spammer for me. (e.g. a bunch of bitcoiners follow Vitalik on X just to dunk on him).
Secondly, reputation is and should always be relative to a pov. If it's global, it's a cousin of the CCP social credit score.
So everyone has their view of who's reputable/not-a-spammer, and this view is influenced or enhanced by only those that are relatively close to you, e.g. your follows and their follows.
How? Personalized Pagerank is a great starting point.
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yeah, but follows in random walks.
You see, nodeA follows 100 others. If each of these follows, follow him back and other 99 nodes
then the probability of doing nodeA --> follow --> nodeA is 1/100
I am using a different idea with PP. First off, it's a monte-carlo version, so I am simulating a bunch of random walks.
Secondly, I've added a new stopping rule: break the walk when a cycle is found.
example: a walk is a bunch of IDs of nodes, like {1, 11, 234, 7, 0}
The walk {1,2,1,2,1,2} contains cycles, so it's stopped earlier at {1,2}. This means 1 and 2 gets visited less often.
Cycles are really improbable for normal users, but highly probable for spam networks. The net result that I've found is basically no change for normal people, and a big de-rank for such networks (their scores go down by a factor of ~3)
true, but almost everyone else gets pushed down as well.
the log is in base 10?
how's it possible that these bots get so much GrapeRank and so little PP?
interesting! Can I ask you some more details?
What noun did you choose for the personalization? Why personalized Pagerank (PP) goes up to distance 4, while GrapeRank goes to distance 7? PP gives a score to all npubs, no matter the distance.
My gf's parents bought a new "smart" washing machine.
It's so smart that you can either do a fast wash of 30m, or a normal of 4h... Nothing in between.
And the best part is that in the app (yes, a washing machine has an app) it once said "clothes too dirty".
Like, wtf you are designed to clean them, not complain
Winzoz is 10x worse than Linux imo. Every time I have to touch it, I am disgusted.
lol. Is it the first time you happen to have such allucinations ?
Just networkx. I am building my own algos rn, because the algo in that paper requires to store a bunch of random walks in the DB and keep them updated at all times.
It should be less susceptible to manipulations than recomputing with high precision every hour.
In that hour a popular npub can get hacked and start making damage.
So in that hour the pagerank distribution can change a lot. With the online version you have a bounded error, no worse than that.
okay, I'll tell them
> what is this obsession with WoT, have you never exchanged contact informations...
Yes, but If I am exchanging info then I can also store *where to find you* (your relay, your homeserver... whatever). And if you migrate you can simply post an event in the old relay (that I already have), "hey I am going over there". Basically a redirect.
This is the distribution of users per relay according to nostr.band
Is this good enough? For now yes. For the future? Depends how big nostr will grow. It can fail miserably which means this whole discussion is kinda pointless.
> Ok if you perceive Pubky as a social media and only comparable to Nostr as a social media and so the general Web use cases are outside of the comparison then you are misunderstanding pubky, and that is mostly the marketing fault, and that is why I hate this social media framing.
Again, your words, I am not saying Pubky is just social media. However I see that the social media usecase is what bootstraps the WoT, which is important in both pubky and nostr when you don't know the key, but metedata about the key like the name. How do you know which key Bob has? That's WoT realm.
> that is basically the definition of P2P networks, a software you don't mind to run.
Well, not all P2P networks rely on just altruism.
Finally, free riding is a problem in nostr too, and bigger as you pointed out. That's why paid relays that specialize in simple tasks are imo the way to go in this area.
What's better:
- 20 competing paid relays that just specialize in matching npub --> relay (market driven solution)
- the pkarr approach, using a DHT (small free riding).
I genuinely don't know the answer.
about what problem the pkarr and the DHT exactly solve in his view of the Web.
nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 the SimplePool suffer from race conditions.
I tried 10 times uploading a pic using Primal, but couldn't nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr (infinite uploading loop)
#asknostr
Do you know any reason why some (rare) kind3 events contain "e" tags?
Web of trust --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust
My best in-depth article https://pippellia.com/pippellia/Social+Graph/Navigating+the+social+graph
another idea that is interesting to consider for limiting access to a mint: Zero knowledge sets.
With them, you can prove you are part of the public whitelisted set of npubs that can use the mint, without revealing who you are.
https://fountain.fm/episode/FAB7kySmGjjxALbIkwdr
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totally agree