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Any takes into the GPU sharing economy? I'm looking into it. Money and simulations, Asics and GPUs. Does it make sense for the individual to have both, it make it extremely decentralized but is it efficient?

PS: want to upgrade my 2060 to a 4070, does it make sense if the target is use it for something like Gputopia?

Replying to Avatar waxwing

Got on a sidetrack this morning and found this interesting little paper from 2004: "why proof of work doesn't work".

https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rnc1/proofwork.pdf

(from a quick read of the conclusion, their argument doesn't appear that strong, but the basic idea is well known - attackers are prepared to spend a ton more to specialize, than ordinary users are, etc. etc.)

This paper might seem quaint to Bitcoiners who are convinced that PoW *does* work, but bear in mind: they are thinking of the spam problem specifically, and so their analysis could still be very relevant today, e.g. in the case of using PoW for systems like Tor or Lightning.

Interesting tidbit, the first author Ben Laurie is the guy, iirc, that invented "Lucre" an ecash system that is an early precursor of privacypass and cashu.

Yeah I would say poor argument too. The purpose of proof-of-work is to create a fair market for the partecipants. Technology will never discriminate the "good" and the "bad" guy.

Spam is spam when the cost to share is zero, if it is not zero, it's just advertising. If it's good advertising it will last because of profitability, if it is not it will go because it is too costly to maintain.

"It seems that the tides are turning though. The flash is wearing off, day by day more and more people are becoming aware of the lies they've been fed by this class of people, and they are reacting in the only way they know how; by attempting to quash the disobedience with censorship. They don't want the information that proves they are incompetent to spread so they are preparing to stop it by any means necessary"

https://tftc.io/martys-bent/un-wants-to-censor-free-speech/

50/50 is a big chunck, morally speaking I would go with a 10%. Give a lesson for the error but also show integrity.

The protocol do not forgive, people do

Amazing cinematic and storytelling, check it out

www.youtube.com/watch?v=o48X3_XQ9to

Trying to do that too, boosting local economy, not weird at all

I can't stand those comments no more. I almost feel sick reading how opinions people have no idea about are still shared with such ease and almost arrogance.

So happy to not be able to log into Shitter because I was suspended.

I'll share again and again until someone explain me that I'm wrong but:

I'd love to have priority messages on Nostr profiles so developers and other npub with big a following can be reached if someone tips certain amounts of sats.

A bigger tip would mean, theorically, a more valuable information that someone want to share.

This could create more signal in the messages sent because information and satoshis are used together.

The profile could for example, ensure response times of 6 hours with message with a zap of 5000 sats (high priority), 24 hours with a zap of 1000 sats (mid priority) and no sats or low sats for other response times (low priority).

I personally think that at the moment we have too much noise in the comments and probably in the DMs. Sorry not sorry but as in the bitcoin ledger, relays space and people attention is limited too. Having a sea of interactions (or notes and other stuff) in not good for the overall success of a network like this one.

Watching the Crossfit Games. Way too commercial for me but seeing such athlets working so hard is so humbling and motivating i wanna go workout in my box again today 😄

Replying to Avatar HoloKat

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I really don’t believe in the user bearing the ultimate responsibility for themselves. Not in today’s world.

I’m willing to bet 90% of you did not read the TOS of the last service you signed up for. Of course, there are some that read everything, but most probably don’t.

In the normie world that number is closer to 99.99%.

Being 100% responsible for your own actions would mean you’d have to read all the TOS and decide for yourself whether you should continue.

But we know nobody does this.

There are certain things we cannot verify for ourselves and where LAWS actually make sense. We live in a society that is held entirely by laws, not by good will or whatever imaginary thing people believe. Without laws we would not be here. We would not have a court system (no matter how dysfunctional), no enforcement of property rights without violence. Society would be hellish. Tribal warfare.

To say Worldcoin should be left up to “free markets” is total bullshit. Yes, I agree, it would be NICE if people did the right thing for themselves. But we’d be lying to ourselves if we didn’t acknowledge that NOBODY read their TOS when they scanned their eyeballs. And even if they did, they would probably not understand the implications of this action.

Hence, we turn to laws. We already have consumer protection laws that actually work and do protect us from certain things. Lead in the water, horrific death from negligence. Fire retardants, safety codes, seatbelts, all the things we take advantage of without actively thinking about took some terrible events to make into law. Look up how and why seat belts become law in US if you don’t believe me.

Besides, even if every one of us were perfectly capable of making a fully autonomous decision, there will always be groups of people who aren’t - elderly, young, disabled, divergent, whatever the proper terms are today


Worldcoin is taking advantage of the developing world first for a reason. The lure of money is tempting when its tough getting by as it is.

Besides, your free markets aren’t all that free anyway. When the system upon which “Free markets” are based on is itself corrupted, the market isn’t really free. Just look at the Robinhood fiasco. So much for free markets there.

We could argue about the last points for hours, because people will say, yeah but you had a choice! Well, yes and no.

Point being - “free markets” are not an excuse to ignore the realities of the world and the necessary constraints society puts in place for all of us to function. Let’s not delude ourselves into thinking free markets are the answer to everything. They are not.

That's a very well put thought, when things get complicated, we need to find a compromize to simplify them.

We are good at it and we evolved well but human is too fallace and we are always looking for the easy way.

I think that, open-source AI could help us be more objective, being able to better understand what the single person is looking for and where the right terms can be found in todays humanly impossible to read/understand TOS.

When you do that, you move bitcoins from someone that is selling them because they don't want them, to someone that want and is accepting them.

Feel like the best way to increase adoption to me

Friction is the perfect word here.

I think too that everything that can be done or shared should be "payed" at least for the amount that is needed for the transaction to be made or to be stored.

The problem is that transaction and storing cost are almost 0 so even if you made the procedure hard, as soon as you decrypt it, then sharing is really easy.

You need the Relays to have to ask for cost of rebroadcasting, but as soon as a price is put, it will create a market, and in a market the cost will always fall into the maintenance price, that will also fall when the technology advance.

Had to translate but:

If you think deeply enough "copyright" it's just a tool to enrich someone that had the luck or power to seem the author of something

How many cases we can find where the real author was not the one with the copyrights? How can you be sure that, that person was the first one to create that things?

Its very deep and hard to draw a line about it, it seems morally correct to give a prize to author but the reality I think is different. It is better to incentivize people to find information and not to pay them when it is found.

In a world full of creators and arts who will really look for authentic pieces?

If you take out coercion and theft, value 4 value it's what moves the world.

The only thing I would add is that, we cannot pretend to get something when we give out information. When information are shared it's already too late to get something back for it. The only thing you can look into are donations from people that value your work and want more from you.

If you think, when you are paying for a subscription plan you are paying to support the future work of an artist, you are not paying for the work he already have done. Morally and phisically it does not make sense to pay to get informations that have already been created and shared. But it does make sense to give money (time and energy) to someone that can give you back value in a way you cannot give it to yourself.