Such a great event

Well done Jenna

That's why I think validation should have some human intervention, for example when ai writes code it should write its own tests too but the test data should be provided/validated by a human.

Then what are you when you take a mortgage? A double slave?

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Thank you for the very nice update from Nostria team

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Also nostr:nprofile1qqsdr0fnxvmn8hxyz8cwazfm8zu9yt7qmc38ll69nkvsgn8dnej4sxcpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3vamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwpexjmtpdshxuet5lpejvk successfully raised on nostr:nprofile1qqs8p3ywfd92w7zvjgy7wrpylz8t30hy3z5dc5al4070l9y8qr8rejcpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5hszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgawaehxw309ahx7um5wghxy6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctc0reyhh

First ever Angor stage released to the founder on nostr:nprofile1qqs8p3ywfd92w7zvjgy7wrpylz8t30hy3z5dc5al4070l9y8qr8rejcpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5hszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgawaehxw309ahx7um5wghxy6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctc0reyhh

Very exciting

https://fulcrum.angor.online/tx/221d511c768c12f59cd853d92b23bc7784b900cf4582b923426b0db84cbbd29d

Nostr is the way

What if a licence was guaranteed to be given at a low cost?

Monopolies would then struggle to suppress competition while creativity rights would be respected.

I would argue relays are centralised, a relay is run by someone that can apply censorship, the power of Nostr is the multi relays approach.

However the way I see it what nostr:nprofile1qqsp0c5gn7aqzqsaqj9p8lgt5yy26vwrsvnzj4rqcg0xn3pl4ra729gpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshsz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9eskuem0wghxjme0fls0tc is trying to achieve here is scaling Nostr to regular users who have less of a notion about decentralisation, such users need easy/simple access to Nostr, but they can later take a more decentralised stance.

Regarding legality, just invest as anon your keys are your proof of investment.

FYI I am an investor in Nostria.

What is missing still is the ability to proof that (it will come)

You picked my interest 😵‍💫

GM mate, gym on the morning, sounds like a good way to start the day and the weekend

The way Angor works is when an investor commits funds the investor still has control over those funds, the Bitcoin becomes locked in to time-based milestones (using timelocks and multisigs) the bitcoin get released over time to the founder, at any point the investor can exist the project and claim back any milestone that was not spent yet, however that will incur a penalty for the investor in the form of a timelock, the Bitcoin will be locked for a predefined time before the investor can access it.

Traction? we are slowly releasing more stable versions to mainnet, and looking for projects to use Angor when raising funds, we even have a dedicated small fund for investing in interesting projects.

Check out angor hub https://hub.angor.io to see current projects

No podcasts yet

I love this

how wired that coracle sneaked in a link on my post nmm

Good questions

Rug pulls are prevented not by reputation but by protocol, bitcoin being locked into delivery stages (timelocks/multisigs/penalties).

Future profits is harder to enforce. To solve this a founder, who wants to provide investors with assurances of future profits, will have to use a combination of reputation/endorsement, but also potentially associating with a legal structure (be it a state court or a private court), by having a claim over the keys that were used in the investment transaction an investor has a proof of investment.

Regarding KYC, Angor is a protocol and as such does not deal with that, it is up to the founder/investor to decide about KYC.

For example a founder that wants to have source of funds will only approve investors that identify themselves.

Why double when you can triple?

Am account like as in kyc account?

The main benefit of Angor though is that it offers investor protection using bitcoins execution language (script).

No more scams or rug pulls, no kyc, use Nostr accounts for reputation.

I would suggest nostr:nprofile1qqs99d9qw67th0wr5xh05de4s9k0wjvnkxudkgptq8yg83vtulad30gpz4mhxue69uhks6tnwshxummnw3ezumrpdejqzxrhwden5te0wfjkccte9ehx7umhdpjhyefwvdhk6qgdwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkcd5u7te that you try to make a test listing on our testnet.

test.angor.io

The difference is mainly that Angor is a protocol not a platform.

The devs have no control who uses it and how, kyc is a platform problem and inherently can't be baked into protocols.

Say I want to actually give liquidity? Any tool you can recommend for that?

It's inevitable

Aren't we assuming they are all selling our data?

This is a symptom of centralisation.

Food for thought...

#zetra

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