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daniele 1y ago

What if products had a Nostr *NPRODUCT* instead of the usual GTIN (UPC/EAN/JAN/ISBN/etc) code?

- Manufacturers would own the digital identity of their products, for free, without be locked in the proprietary GTIN (UPC/EAN/JAN/ISBN/etc) market;

- It would be possible for buyers follow a product they own and be alerted about production problems, updates, news and suggestions;

- Nostr e-commerce/reviews apps would have a better integration for products, with a news live feed from the manufacturers;

- Manufacturers could offer a specialized customer support via DM using the product profile;

- Manufacturers could promote resellers, and possibily onboard them on Nostr;

- Manufacturers or sellers could cryptographically certify the purchase of a product to issue a warranty;

Identity attestation is easy, the nproduct is stamped as qrcode on the product or its packaging.

Let's introduce NIP-88, a PR about products classification:

https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/1225

Comments and feedback are welcome!

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VelvetBlue_art 1y ago

When people open an item I sent them, they look at it and use it and throw the package away. On the off chance someone tries the QR code and are directed to NOSTR, their reaction as a normies will be "wtf is this" and leave. No one does the 2nd step to get an NPub. If they are normies is what I'm saying.

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daniele 1y ago

The qrcode is just the correspondent of the current barcode, it is not used as marketing tool to bring the user on Nostr (but it could, if the user is already on Nostr and has a client that can scan profiles). Or it can be a "composite QR code", that contains both the nprofile (so the pubkey) and an url to a easy browsable resource.

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Português Sem Passaporte 1y ago

Hooooo… The GS1 m@phia not gonna like it…

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Adamsmith 1y ago

Can I patent that idea 🧐

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HoloKat 1y ago

Love it 😍

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Chad Lupkes 1y ago

I work in retail, and I'll have to take a look at the NIP. Before I do, just some brainstorming notes.

The standard for item identity right now is the UPC, which is a global standard that has worked really well since it was launched in 1973. The EAN-13 version of the barcode could be incorporated into an NPC (Nostr Product Code) that includes additional information about ... anything really. It's all a hash that can include any number of embedded documentation and details. Items with the same UPC but coming from different factories in different countries around the world could be properly identified with source data, materials composition, labor details, applicable laws and Value Added Tax details, transportation logs, etc. and it would all fit in the nproduct hash via something like IPFS content hashing.

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47 1y ago

👀

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HoloKat 1y ago

Now we need an nproduct inventory system 💜

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todd 1y ago

My company does a RFID traceability (GTIN, like you say) product (TallyFlow). I'll def take a look. Looking for ways for producers to comply with mandates, yet own their data and expand the usefulness.

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daniele 1y ago

Thank you, your feedback would be really valuable

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Cyber Seagull 1y ago

The law incentives those other standards, what would incentivise manufaturers, consortiums or users to use an NPP (Nostr Product Pubkey) ?

One thing might be product signing and verification.

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daniele 1y ago

If you mean physically products, this would be nice, unfortunately you cannot sign or attest an object in the physical realm without an authority, see the art market or the counterfeit products one. It will be always possible copy a code and attach it to something.

Btw, do not pay for a code and cryptographically manage it, are some interesting incentives.

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Cyber Seagull 1y ago

A use case Users might be interested in, and thus incentivise adoption is product reviews. Anonymous, Uncensored, reputation based, would yield genuine data, whereas now a platform can censor or a manufacturer can sue for libel.

Reviewers in the nostr ecosystem could earn an income through zaps.

It would also have a way for companies to reply to concerns and pgp sign/verify these replies and updates, embedded in the Nostr based tracking code itself.

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Svetski 1y ago

That’s cool!

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frphank 1y ago

The npub could be embedded *in* the product.

https://chyp.com/2022/09/16/the-identity-of-things-products-and-provenance/

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igisky 1y ago

UR genius! 👍

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₿harat 1y ago

Brilliant.

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🦄Onigirl🐹🐉 1y ago

OMG how wonderfully ambitious and thoughtful!