The correct framing here is not that Nostr has evil content, but that _some relays_ do.

These relays are not Nostr, Nostr is only the language your client uses to download the content from the relay, and your device only downloads what it asks for and from the servers it chooses to.

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Yikes. luckily I have not seen such content and intend to keep it that way. ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ท

Are AI and npub blacklists enough to curtail this?

We need some powerful word crafting or memes to make sure everybody understands this, else normies will default think of nostr as a service. Or maybe we don't... it can't be shut down so maybe the politics of nostr don't matter.

Iโ€™ve seen porn in global feeds in the past, but not rampantโ€ฆ and I donโ€™t go looking for it, so are they and thatโ€™s why they are finding so much?

I don't know if it still ongoing, but there were accounts posting CP to threads using the #introductions tag. Nice welcome ๐Ÿคฎ

Yikes ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿคข maybe Nostr needs some regulation or mods.

Nice try FBI

Call me Kash Patel cause I'm coming for the deep state. ๐Ÿš”

*better tools for people to manage what they see.

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Yeah I used to see them gaming the hashtags all the time, but thankfully I donโ€™t see it under introductions much anymore

Right, if I see anything gross I just mute that shit. Luckily I haven't seen any of the disturbing content mentioned here. I know Bluesky was lousy with this type furry/tranny shit when I had Bluesky for a day or two before being grossed out to the point of deletion.

I basically never see any of this stuff. People just need to curate their feeds better.

I tend to agree but are not sure if Iโ€™m just lucky by picking the right follows/relays โ€ฆ

How is it luck, if it's your own choices?

Cause I just randomly picked some (at least relays). ๐Ÿคฃ

Are monkeys throwing darts at the wall making choices?

If I'm the monkey and I hit the bullseye, then "yes".

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I never see smut unless if I went to the global feed maybeโ€ฆ I think? I have in the past, but donโ€™t use global now and have plenty of folks I follow that are into more interesting thingsโ€ฆ like BTC, permaculture, games, family, Christ, homesteading and regen ag, etc.

My suggestion is just mute those that offend you greatly, and carry on with your life. Kinda like I do with all the ones who want to help me multiply my BTC or promote sh!tcoin projects, other trash like that.

Nostr has evil content. The bad relays are as much a part of the nostr protocol as any other.

Just like the plain web sites that host csam are a part of the html and http protocols. There are pedos in every part of the internet, and on every protocol

Between relays, clients, and CDN's,nostr already has all the censorship and moderation it will ever need.

yeah I've never seen a single porn or csam post on Nostr and I'm grateful for that. really hate how there's no opt out method on X for OFesque content regardless of the fact that I never engage with it. will say that it's gotten much better now, but much prefer only seeing content from people I follow.

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I noticed it when I first joined, but it didnโ€™t bother me too since I knew itโ€™d come with the tradeoff censorship resistant. Cleaned my relays and muted a few people, and Iโ€™m golden now. ๐Ÿ’Ž

I learned how to find it when I started, just so I knew what to watch for so I never had to see it again. We control our own feeds, we don't control what other people post. Nobody should be able to control what other people post, we just need to take control of our own content and our own feeds.

Exactly, people who declare themselves adults need to start acting this way. If someone wants to be nannied, better off going to Big Daddy Elon's X or BlueSky etc.

Likely cursing through the global stuff. I wonder if he following any of the porn too. ๐Ÿคฃ

Step into global and you wonโ€™t be the same again

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I think it could be a good idea to compare Nostr to HTTP.

I don't hear people complaining about HTTP being full of porn.

Explaining protocols to people used to platforms is not easy.

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Yes, it is a good idea. But where is that comparison to be made? I wrote many explanations of what Nostr is in many places of the internet, and many other people also did pretty good ones. Is anyone reading them? Apparently not. There are many videos and interviews published in many places that explain what Nostr is in a very compelling and correct way. Who is watching them?

Information flows... Knowledge doesn't as easy.

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Thank you so much for your efforts ๐Ÿ™

if you did more to promote the simple solution that mitigates over 90% of ways for this garbage to end up on relays, you know, paid relays, auth, and especially auth protecting DMs so people have privacy about who their friends are

you would have something to say about this

but you don't

instead you want to deflect having anything to do with this protocol your invented, and don't think you should be any kind of a teacher of the way except you are, and until you do your duty, other people are going to suffer