People taking creatine are going to FAFO as they age.
Miss me with that synthetic garbage.
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Explain 🙏
Yes I’m curious as well.
People are pushing the idea of taking synthetic creatine supplements.
It's all over the mainstream "health" gurus YouTubes, & social media.
They tought it as all gains with zero downside.
It has a clear effect on all your muscles & the brain.
The heart is one of those muscles & I think if you have some sort of problem there you might be able to take creatine to help it.
But if you're healthy, why would you want to play games with your heart?
"Creatine is a compound that comes from three amino acids. Creatine is found mostly in your body's muscles as well as in the brain...Most people get creatine through seafood & red meat. The body's liver, pancreas and kidneys also can make about 1 gram of creatine per day."
We're also playing games with our liver & pancreas it seems.
heres a table of grams of creatine per lb & kg of foods on avg, why not just eat an extra pound of beef, salmon, or herring?
Humans are so fucking crazy,
"Sodium sarcosinate and cyanamide are put into a reactor and heated/pressurized to form a liquid. Then it is cooled to form crystalline creatine and put through a centrifuge to remove any impurities."
Interesting stuff.
I've been taking creatine for years, maybe time to ease off a bit.
Replace it with a pound of sushi grade wild salmon 😁
Eating it raw has its benefits!
Peep these amounts:
Replacing 1lb of creatine monohydrate ($20USD) with 1lb of salmon ($20USD) obtaining 2g creatine doesn't seem like the best value option
Me finding out that creatine monohydrate is the most studied sports supplement, not only generally recognised as safe but even shown to reduce the likelihood of cerebral palsy in the children of mothers who supplement with it during pregnancy and improve their brain health; that it increases phosphocreatine and ATP production increasing strength; that it reduces symptoms of depression and anxiety; has shown life extension properties in animal models:
Creatine has been studied for 30 years. Do you expect major side effects to kick in at the 50 year mark?
I take creatine in the form of steak so I think I'll be fine.
Ooo looks like someone has been taking a lot of creatine 👀.
How much & how long have you been dosing for?
Wouldn’t say a lot. Probably a few months at a time every few years. It has the risk of contamination like any other supplement, but outside of that is just a simple amino acid the body makes. I would be more concerned about stevia and polyester in underwear
Creatine is not an amino acid.
How much are you taking for those few months?
What's the motivation?
Around 5-10g per day to enhance strength training and brain function
& to achieve this your willing to ingest high time preference synthetic chemicals, not to be confused with amino acids, because shitty studies with too many confounding variables to count say its good?
Here's the corrected tweet response:
Creatine is not tren lol. Nothing about it is high time preference. It takes months of consistent use with training to see marginal improvements, which do compound over time making it worthwhile given its low cost.
If you want to disregard the body of studies conducted over decades on top of hundreds of thousands of anecdotes supporting the net benefits of creatine supplementation for most people, go ahead. It doesn't affect me.
Creatine is high time preference by definition, the shit you're buying is completely synthetic.
It doesn't occur in nature in this form.
Start citing studies, use your sources - go ahead.
I'll use my intuition, don't affect me either.
You’re the one asserting creatine is dangerous, so the onus is on you to show the evidence that supports this claim.
Who knows maybe there is some crazy side effect that kicks in after 50 years, but the decades of research, anecdotal evidence, and my personal experience tells me that’s unlikely to happen. Either way, I’m not interested in arguing over intuition so we can agree to disagree.
I'm the one asserting synthetic supplements are unhealthy, yes.
The onus is on you, the taker to ingest information - intuitively - this substance doesn't exist without artificial chemicals.
If you want to risk it all just to get the "benefits" fine, but quoting the "30 years of research" is pure Idiocracy as there's too many confounding variables to discuss this properly.
My goal is to live a long healthy life, so I adjust for the hubris of man by staying away from all synthetics - this provides me concrete value...
Keep reading PDFs on the internet & living your life through them.
Blessings on blessings good luck g 🙏.
And you keep listening your intuition even when there’s no real world evidence to validate it 🙏🏼
There is real world evidence to validate that synthetic chemicals ingested to achieve high time preference results usually leads to some issues.
Whether we can trace it back to that is tough to say.
I feel the need to repeat this as you're stuck on the idea that it has zero drawbacks - if that was the case they wouldn't be cautioning people with kidney issues to not ingest it.
The only point I'm trying to make:
-> there is zero need to ingest anything synthetic if you want to be healthy & live a long life.
If you want to argue against this point be my guest.