#Bitcoin is not good for states. If you once remind how the states are maintained, you'll realize that #Bitcoin can't be good for states. However #Bitcoin is good for people, grassroots, plebs.
On the other hand, #Bitcoin IOUs are different. I mean Liquid, #Bitcoin ETF, paper #Bitcoin on exchanges or something. These will empower the states. Are these good for people, grassroots or plebs?
NO!
But..but maxis are telling me they're good..!😭
Disgusting #Bitcoin affinity scammer🤮
He can't distinguish between #Bitcoin adoption and #Bitcoin IOU adoption.
Altcoins cloud essentials and disturb #Bitcoin.
Tether is also good for #Bitcoin they say...😭 You are wrong! They are more famous than you!! 😭😭😭
Yes, they are clowns🤡
Tether is good for providing the 3rd world more efficient ways to move money that will keep them out of banks & ultimately promote use of Bitcoin infrastructure. It will contribute to lightning liquidity & will make adoption of (swaping to) Bitcoin as a tool for saving a much simpler process. It is incredibly conservatively managed & the revenue is being used to fund development of keet & other p2p infrastructure.
Tether is a way to move people who have no idea that they need Bitcoin closer to Bitcoin without them knowing.
Do you know what fiat and fiat-pegged-coins are?
It is #Bitcoin what you are explaining. 
They are shitcoins, but a fiat pegged shitcoin moving on top of free & open bitcoin infrastructure is far better than a CBDC that uses govt controlled & censored infrastructure. If poor normies who just want to move dollars (& don't care about Bitcoin) end up dependent on tether moved as a LN token (whether they know it or not), then when they finally become smart enough to understand that they might actually need some Bitcoin, they are only a click away.
CBDC holders will eventually be cut off & will only be able to buy things from politically approved corps.
Bitcoin is likely to still be too volatile & too big a leap for most people before CBDCs are rolled out. Tether is the same sort of shit they are used to on a more open & more efficient network. Prices are like a language, adoption of a new one is slow & difficult. Tether is a mild improvement that may prevent or undermine a dramatic negative shift to CBDCs.
Why do we need "better fiat" while we have the best money, #Bitcoin .
You are making problems which are not actually problems like Bitcoin is too XYZ. No, Bitcoin is not what you are claiming. Your Tether defending words are just marketing.
People are open to #Bitcoin directly.
I have personally been telling people about the best money for 12 years. Most still don't get it. I would rather be surrounded by idiots using tether than idiots using CBDCs.
CBDCs will allow the govt to easily weaponize people against people like me. If you can't understand that then you aren't thinking clearly or realistically enough about the nature of our situation.
I agree with your opinion on CBDC. But the fact that Tether being better than CBDC doesn't make sense to me to be accepted using it instead of Bitcoin. However I deeply understand your long way you did make with Bitcoin. Since that, I do not want to think or conclude that it is impossible to Bitcoin embracing by people. Because I am the poof. And I sure that a lot of peple are like me. That is why I only look and think of Bitcoin, the only way through. Let us not give up hope.
I'm extremely bullish on Bitcoin, I just think it's unfortunately going to be a long game. It is & always will be very easy to exchange tether for BTC. It will not be easy to buy BTC with the CBDC network dollars. There are also lots of people in poorer places, who are on tight day to day budgets, who operate in dollar prices & can't afford a 5 or 10% negative move. Going from 0 to 100% bitcoin is not an option for some people. A way to more efficiently operate in dollars while slowly stacking their way to freedom can be extremely helpful
Sorry for my poor English. I mispelled proof(I wrote poof above...).
Anyway, I agree that it will be a long game. That is also why I think the Bitcoin only way will be finally the break through. I personally will focus on educating Bitcoin to people, not any kind of fiat-variation coins. I live in a time-limited time space. So I have to use my life time very efficiently. I don't have any of fractal piece of time to use on fiat(or fiat-pegged).
I have a long term view, but my life is shorter than Bitcoin's life time. I have to focus on Bitcoin with all my effort.
I'm not telling anyone not to focus on Bitcoin 😊
I just also support the creation of better options for people who do refuse to focus on Bitcoin (for whatever reason). There are enough of those people that too much of a "fuck em" attitude is likely to be counter productive.
OK, I get it. But, last thing. There are not "enough" of those 'fuckem' people on the contrary. Instead there are too much grifters and parasites of fiat predators. If you are talking about it in a inner circle of Bitcoin community, then you could be right (partialy). But we are now talking about global adoption. So, no. There should be more and more 'fuck em' Bitcoiners.
I think you misunderstood. Let's be extremely generous & assume 10% of the population is Bitcoin friendly no matter what. There are still not enough hardcore Bitcoiners for us to say "fuck everyone who doesn't get it" without there being a serious chance of 90% of the population turning on us completely. CBDCs allow authoritarians to potentially turn everyone against us with financial rewards & punishments. But if only 10% wind up trapped by CBDCs because 80% started using tether tokens on LN to make micropayments & to connect their siloed services (venmo to cash app, etc) then that's a better future for us & the door to bitcoin adoption remains open for most of the normie 90%.
You are advocating slavery. Fiat is slavery. Fiat-pegged-coin is also slavery.
Sounds exactly like saying you're in favor of slavery because it helps the plantation owners and slaves themselves.
Wrong is wrong, even if someone demands the wrong.
If the slave master is offering chains in exchange for a place inside his house, & someone else is building slave houses on the edge of the plantation with tunnels out, where is the better place for slaves you want to free in the future? I'm not telling anyone not to advocate freedom, I just think it's slso important to help those who still don't want freedom.
The CIA loves them some tether. Easy way to pay the Al Queda forces they’ve been funding to destabilize Syria.
I mean, even if that is the case, what difference does it make? That's just evidence that the efficiency of moving tether WILL likely undermine CBDCs. If even the govt, & the other criminals they spawn, prefer tether to dollars, then preventing the sort of slavery like censorship that a CBDC would enable is well within the realm of possibility.
I'm not telling anyone to use tether, but I can understand that there are a lot of people who don't want or are afraid of Bitcoin who will be better off with tether than a CBDC.
Liquid is not like an ETF or paper Bitcoin. Liquid is a monero like sidechain & it is a bridge for cheaply, & privately onboarding more people into lightning & other scaling solutions.
Who does hold the keys of pegged-in #Bitcoin?
A federation of 60+ (& growing) people & organizations. And since they can't see how the money moves, & they can't change the supply, & they would all have to collude to kill the very infrastructure they benefit from, I certainly don't see why it's not a completely valid way to help solve the scaling problem. There are some tradeoffs, but it's far more secure than any shitcoin & it actually contributes to LN privacy. Fediment is basically just a small scale version of a similar thing.
It says right on their scam site that “designated parties” can see the sensitive details.
That tRaDe OfFs🤦♂️
Not your keys, not your #Bitcoin.
Do not trust, verify.
Can I hold the keys?
Can I run Liquid node?
Never forget EO6102. Do not allow #Bitcoin to become gold.
You can run a liquid full node that allows you to ensure federation members are behaving. You can also potentially become a federation member, though I do not know the requirements.
Monero-like is a stretch. Liquid only hides amounts (confidential transactions).
It doesn't obfuscate sender, IP, or hide reciever (doesn't have ring sigs, dandelion++, or stealth addresses)
"A sent $[?] to B"
VS
"6% chance A sent $[?] to [?]"
Virtually no one uses liquid either (market says na)
But even worse than all that it is permissioned to peg out and not trustless.
Why do maxis contort themselves to support this shit? Like the apologia for WoS? I don't get it. Any shitcoin that had these properties without the "Bitcoin" in name-only brand would immediately be denounced.
