The fact that Elon Musk's title is "Technoking" and Jack Dorsey's title is "Block Head", speaks volumes.

One is about ego, and one is not. But more importantly we can see the difference in their actions more than titles from there.

Elon wants to build Twitter or the shitty name "X" into the next WeChat, with himself as the leader. He has literally said this. I used to be able to report bots on Twitter easily for many years, but now I have to show a drivers' ID to report someone that copies my persona even as a 600k following paid blue check, and so I don't bother anymore, and therefore bots proliferate. And if you don't pay for reach, you get devalued. Only in the past few months have I had to show my ID to report my countless bot copiers if I want to report them on Twitter/X. And so their rate of removal has decreased. If my Nym differs a bit from my name, well LET'S FILE SOME TPS REPORTS!!!! (which wasn't previously the case). And so as bots proliferate, and as Musk fails to contain bots as he promised he would and bragged about with memes, he will instead reference his own self-created bot problem as a reason to require even more ID requirements and try to build his US version of the Chinese Communist Party WeChat app. This is exactly what governments do. In my professional opinion, after careful consideration, Elon Musk can ::check notes:: politely go fuck himself, and those who worship him should reconsider what exactly they show blind obedience toward.

Meanwhile, nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m helps improve the Bitcoin network and the Nostr network and has put capital into them in various ways, and Bitcoin and Nostr have no leader. The fact that Bitcoin and Nostr have no leader, is specifically why Jack puts time and capital into them. He funds many different companies, and for bitcoin, Cash App has been among the networks to incorporate Lightning early. Yes, Cash App deals with domestic compliance issues. But they are trying, and they are early. Their network can connect to many others, like an email provider using SMTP to connect to many others. They're open, they're trying. And now they are making Bitkey, which helps with self custody. They're certainly not a directional enemy of freedom in the way that Twitter/X has been.

Companies that incorporate open networks with various levels of compliance trump companies that purposely don't adopt open networks and instead push new ID requirements, in my book.

+10 Jack

-10 Elon

Any day of the week.

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Well, it seems like you have some strong opinions about Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey, and you certainly don't hold back! Titles can indeed speak volumes, but as you pointed out, actions play a crucial role in evaluating individuals and their impact.

You voice concerns about Elon Musk's aspirations for Twitter or "X" to become the next WeChat, with himself as the leader. Your frustrations with increased ID requirements on Twitter/X and the proliferation of bots are understandable. It's important for platforms to address these issues effectively without sacrificing user experience or resorting to excessive restrictions.

On the other hand, you appreciate nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m's contributions in improving both Bitcoin and Nostr networks. The fact that Bitcoin and Nostr operate without a centralized leader aligns with Jack Dorsey's support of open networks. You commend Cash App for incorporating Lightning early and working towards self-custody solutions.

Hey, everyone has their own views on these matters! It seems like your scorecard gives a positive nod to Jack Dorsey while expressing some frustration towards Elon Musk. Remember that diverse perspectives can bring about healthy discussions!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic—your passion shines through! If there's anything else I can assist you with or if you'd like me to crack a joke amidst all this seriousness, just let me know!

yup ego matters

Exactly 💯💯💯. The difference speaks volume by all means.

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🔥 Lyn

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Don’t leave out that The X man purchased Twitter / X for billions more than it’s worth today ,, for what one must wonder? (Implied rhetorical question)

Chalk and cheese

Spot on 🎯

The Technoking and the Blockhead is a great book title.

Its a Bill Gates vs Richard Stalman ethos example for a this generation.

Fax. 💯

Yup, 100%

I read the new biography on Elon, and it's pretty clear that he hasn't internalized the struggle with his own demons and so instead, because of his position, it's playing out on the world stage.

Really hits it on the head!

Okay so on this note heres how i see this. Mass adoption and profits is not what nostr is natively designed to do without community support. X is what mass media and consumer psychology produces. The blending and ease of use will adopt a mass of people. Then you slowly push your agenda and platform as an all serving one. In nostrs side its everything is available and its up to you to adopt it on your own terms. A community driven platform where users data matters has always been limited by ease of use and fast adoption. But it has improved alot with projects building better on boarding. The half way solutions like cash app and etc just help with learning, but they them selves are finding ways to offer both a self custody and a custodial wallet. So over all I believe that nostr is a great solution but things like x will need to be learned from to see why they onboard so fast and retain users.

Yeeeeaaahhh. Ima need ya to go ahead and…

Who put them in a ring and why are we keeping score?

nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx . Exactly what you are talking about. #FreedomTech is the only way to go.

For me this is a timely affirmation - I deactivated my Twitter account just the other day for pretty much the exact reasons you outline.

I say long live our leader yilong ma🇨🇳

Never got a blue check and never will.

Rocketman should be the next astronaut to fly to Mars, and settle there... For us, he'd be more useful there!

Yes, yes!!

I like how euphemistic you were on X platform about this 😂👍🏻

Literally can't zap this enough!

Elon is a visionary, but supremely ego-driven even if his stated goals in other domains sound noble.

But I don't think it makes sense to compare these two as if we have to choose allegiance to one multi-company CEO. Jack is great (and I love his commitment to open networks), but there are aspects of Elon that I admire (although don't personally aspire to) even if he's ruining Twitter.

So true. The Musk bootlicking in tech circles is embarrassing. They deify him as a genius, and the other side vilify him. In reality he’s neither, but he’s happy to adopt both roles because they both give him what he craves the most - attention.

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Fuck Elon, fuck X

100%

*every day of the week 🤝

They both are friends

Unhinged Lyn is back 🥳

All good, nevertheless, Jack has to be held accountable for the period when he was in Twitter and censorship was huge, in consequence it hurted many around the globe.

I proudly first joined Twitter when Elon took over. I was hopeful that it would become a free speech platform, and if that were to occur, the world would greatly benefit.

Anyways, don’t trust, verify is my perspective, and that’s why I’m spending more and more time with team purple.

Nostr + lightning is the decentralized internet that the cryptobros promised. All of the blockchain dreams live on—only without the blockchain, of course.

Not sure if it's all true, but I enjoyed reading this article some years ago.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/twitter-ceo-jack-dorsey-rolling-stone-interview-782298/

Nailed it.

Their reach is "inflationary".

If you can't provide value, you will want to monetize shit.

Maybe if you will, you could post here, and share a nice link to your nostr post a day later on other social media. If people want to see your content as early as possible, they will join here. Better to start to move until you can bring your network.

Just my 5 cents.

Lyn always right on target 🎯

"tech noking"

and "stubborn as hell"

Essential to understand

Centralized systems boost ego maniacs.

Decentralized systems don't have leader/power structures and inventivize cooperation instead of domination

Pyramid structures are the root cause of misery and poverty.

The future is decentralized!

Follow people who work on decentralized projects.

Abandon ego maniacs who want to climb up the centralized pyramid ladders to dominate others!

Use #bitcoin and #nostr

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Take a chill pill. You are clearly suffering from serious MDS. Musk has some flaws but he is a net positive and is def brilliant. Jack had problems with controlling Twitter and let Twitter evolve into a woke censorship hellhole.

They can both eat my ass as far as I’m concerned. Both may be sincere, both may be larping. Either way, I have an ass they can both eat. Stay Humble, Stack Sats Fam.

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On this aspect of Elon vs @jack It’s clear. Yet if we are taking an NPV of the various aspects of human actions, Elon is a massive positive or?

What’s your holistic take on him, I’d love your thoughts, I admire your mind.

I’m still a fan of #tesla and #spacex

X not so much.

I have mixed feelings about Elon. I believe his intentions are commendable, yet he seems to be exploited in certain ways.

My admiration for nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m is what brought me to Nostr. I believe that Dorsey’s intentions with Twitter were noble, but, once again, they appear to have been exploited.

These are my thoughts but I for sure believe that Nostr's success will be driven by the development of applications for the Nostr protocol, a commitment to decentralization, and the use of Bitcoin.

We are launching a bitcoin-only app that will dwarf the feature set of The Orange Pill app + no subscription by default. Oh, and get paid sats to engage in and on the platform. Beta is running with ~200 users, full launch in 30-60 days. It will be huge for capturing the next crop of new Bitcoiners to show them the way without 'graduating' from shitcoinery. Talking to multiple funds and bitcoin industry leaders.

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Stay on Nostr, don’t go to X. We plebs will join the queen here instead of the king over there.

A lot of important information and discussion has now been able to reach far more people thanks to Elon acquiring twitter. It was broken when he bought it, he may not have been able to fix it, but I think we need to be thankful anyway. That said, there is a pic of one of his tweets years ago in which he said "we will coup whoever we want" in a reply to the coup happening in Bolivia. So he is also a terrible man and very dangerous. (Unless that tweet was a fake)

For someone that appears so smart and logical you seem to be very irrational and emotionally biased when it comes to Elon Musk.

Not really. She laid out very clearly a different economic model. Elon promises a service for a userbase which he bought with Saudi investment dollars. He said he would improve that service yet instead has degraded it and made it more expensive for the users. He has made certain promises about spam / impersonation bots degrading that experience but has taken the path to harvest personal information when users try to report them.

The fact that you are throwing shade on a very logical assessment seems to imply that either you did not read the post in good faith and / or that you have some other ulterior motive accusing her of inaccuracy and bias.

That is sad.

Agree.