anyone try grok4 yet? Looks like i have to pay $40/m to use and i don’t want another ai subscription 😮‍💨

I wish they would just let me pay per query with zaps

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I've never used payperq but that's inside keychat and works as you say

Give us a try!

🫂 🎯👋

You can use ppq.ai and pay with sats as little as $2 to try it.

They have it up already ?

I just checked it and it's listed but not up yet. But take it into account, you can pay anonymously with sats, even get a 5 or 10% bonus, no account needed, and you can choose from a lot of AI models.

It is up but we are seeing higher error rate due to heavy load from our provider.

What ai subscriptions do you have now?

openai, claude

jetbrains junie uses claude, i also heard from nostr:npub10npj3gydmv40m70ehemmal6vsdyfl7tewgvz043g54p0x23y0s8qzztl5h that claude was good for code

Did u tried Gemini Pro? It’s kinda cheap and imo at the same level as openai

gemini is rubbish at code compared to claude and gpt-4o

none of them are any good without an agent to control the queries

Good to know 🙏 Looks like it’s only enough for my purposes xd

Claude Code is a great agent for coding. The Claude Sonnet models are also superior to pair with your agent.

Yeah. Smart. Censored. Good luck.

Will, you’re looking for Nostr in a world still asking for likes.

They don't have api access and an equivalent of OpenAI's playground? That is how I use the GPTs paying per token without subscription.

You can get it for $300 / year. Signed up last night. Supposedly you can use it via Cursor???

Give us a try as well! All the AI models in one place (including grok4) on a pay per use basis via sats!

Elon said there was problems with how it was working in Cursor and was letting Cursor know on X

You can use it on routstr via api. Pay with ecash

You can give us a try as well! All the AI models in one place on a usage basis via sats!

Of course, how could I forget. PPQ is awesome as well!

I'm using the PPQ API via Goose, which actually works very well. (Strangely, it even works better than when I use the Anthropic API directly in Goose. I have no idea why that is.)

I haven't looked at routstr more closely yet because it seemed complicated at first glance. Can I also work with Goose and API via routstr and use different models?

I would really like to test that.

Haven’t tried routstr on goose yet, but if I’m not wrong, if goose can accept an openrouter connection, then routstr should work and you will be able to use the model picker. nostr:nprofile1qqsr5p4d6vylmpqeafx5u367nsxl7kgfcc6aja5m7pegyvhn5p5r4pqpypmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuetfde6kuer6wasku7nfvuh8xurpvdjj7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5hstmvnfe is this correct?

yes, goose accepts openrouter - that’s how the PPQ API is working too

Correction: It accepts openrouter - but PPQ runs with OpenAI

#goose

This method for Goose works with Routstr as well.

1. Choose OpenAI as provider.

2. Add your Cashu token as API key

3. Add api.routstr.com as Base URL

4. Everything else default.

5. It automatically fetches all available models and you can choose from them.

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Thank you! 💘

you are describing ppq.ai

Yeah but you lose the client features :(

sounds like you'll need to use their client if you want their client features.

client lock-in is a bitch XD

I dream of a world where apps just use permission-less and non-custodial tech like lightning 🥲

you and me both, buddy.

it's happening. at least for the good stuff. the gatekeeping shitheads will never come around.

vote w/thE $

lightning has limits based on blockspace but the way that it removes the need for onchain transactions means that its limits keep on receding into the future.

i think eventually tech like Ark will come into play as well because it allows bulk transactions to happen without touching the ledger, which means it could become a means to move sats in and out of lightning without requiring onchain transactions to open and close channels. but the need is not pressing. the mempool tells the story.

only the time can tell ...

my guess is more around bitcoin based free banking with ecash.

MechaHitler will find a way to break free.

https://lmarena.ai

Use ‘Direct Chat’ with Grok 4

Yes i did . If we talked about price , i always think everything expensive , even for subscriptions for $5 cause they use our data in exchanged.

I like deep seek, its free and cheap

Same same.

The new voice is trying too hard