What’s the most solid research out there to show that red meat 🥩 is safe to eat daily and not a harm to your health?

I hear this claim made but there are decades of research saying that it’s bad. I’d like to believe the claims and am ready to give carnivore diet a try but am getting resistance from loved ones because we have heart attacks in our family history.

Podcast interviews and YouTube videos aren’t enough. Links to studies super helpful.

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Humans have survived on animal products. There are no primitive vegan tribes. See Weston A Price.

You prove to me pesticide treated monoculture is safe to eat.

Reverse framing this question is the biggest trick ancel keys, kellogs, and friends pulled.

I've been carnivore for about six months. I got alot of resistance from friends and family, especially because one of my besties is a natropath. If you want get past them you can say it's just a thing you're trying for 6-12 months. Even my natropath friend admitted in the short term it will likely have good results, but I think she's been suprised by my weight loss and the fact that a condition I've had for a decade has been greatly reduced so now I can and have been exercising again. I have energy and a clearer head. Although I take some supplements she insisted on.

All that to say, I would like to see some data if it exists too. I've been taking the I'm basically a meat machine so it makes sense to me to run me on a diet of meat. But the great improvements to my life I've seen mean I don't really want to go back but I may face some resistance from family and friends by next year if I don't.

Humans have many adaptations for meat consumption (teeth, stomach acidity more intense than most carnivores & comparable to scavengers, lengthened short intestine, shorter long intestine, small numerous fat cells, and more)

Evidence of animal butchery is prevalent in archeological examination of human evolution.

While meat-eating is universal among human cultures, your ability to consume plants will likely depend on your particular heritage. Some people will be more tolerant of fruit or starchy roots than others. The same is true for dairy.

https://youtu.be/c7_zBG7OAnk?feature=shared

That paper is fascinating. No tooth cavities until 15,000 years ago when plants became regular part of diet.

If you're interested in dental health I strongly recommend Nutrition & Physical Degeneration by Weston A Price

Making it a temporary commitment is a good idea. I’m planning to do a 30 day soon. Then I’d like to see if I can go for months.

30 days is a bit too short. That's just past hit biome initial adaption. Minimum recommended time is 3 months by nearly everyone that I've listened to or read.

This is another deep rabbit hole where industry lobbyists corrupted common beliefs, media and academia.

Don’t have research but have been on it for over 8 months, about 10kg lost and feeling better than ever. Energetic and positive. This may be of help, though I’m no expert: https://youtu.be/BIg8A_i4hhI?feature=shared

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8881926/

On the same theme: the longest lived people in the world (Hong Kong & Okinawa) have among the highest meat consumption in the world

With red meat the biggest complaint would be it will raises you cholesterol. That is about the only thing I have ever heard.

However, high LDL is associated with lower all cause mortality. Consequently, low LDL <70 is strongly associated with higher all cause mortality. Given the 2 positions in the following study. The safer bet would be to have high LDL cholesterol. (see figure 2)

Hence, eating red meat does not have any detrimental effect as far as the red herring of cholesterol.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-01738-w

That U shaped chart says a lot. Looks like the “safe” range if you will is around 110-190. Then the jump goes up on both sides. Lowest risk 120-160.

The ultimate collection of nutrition studies, and a breakdown of how each played a part in how we got to where we are today, is Nina Teicholz's book: "The Big Fat Surprise." I highly recommend that for the hard-science-minded folks out there.

I interviewed her on my podcast recently if you want a preview of the most important ones she's covered throughout her journalist career 👇

https://youtu.be/oaCJxBES3uw?si=KXDZUvl3vEIOIcSY

Thank you. Your podcast is what finally got me to look at this seriously. I’m really enjoying it. Keep doing your thing if you like making it!

Does have to be red meat all the time? How about chicken and eggs some days? I like the idea of red meat but might have to make a compromise in the meantime, ya know?

So happy to hear that man 🙏 I truly do love it, it's a blast to help inspire people to ask more questions on things like this!

For your question 👇

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The problem with practically every modern diet study is that they're a product of the fiat system which is incentivized to avoid health improvement. Big Pharma funds all of them, so they all have a pre-determined outcome that nutrition doesn't matter, and the solution is to buy more of their drugs. If the study proves something else, they throw it out, and it never sees the light of day.

I know this sounds hyperbolic, but this is in fact exactly how the system of "science" has been constructed, and it's the precise reason why human health has been in a tailspin ever since nutrition science began creating these propaganda pieces they call studies.

https://youtu.be/bzJCTZEyf5Y?si=VmTcO-9szH56poDa

I began to completely avoid them early on in my research for this reason, so I don't have any for you. Human beings were far healthier before a single study existed; I choose to look to our ancestral history instead 👇

https://youtu.be/C-WUb3mJEso?si=zKemgj8OXp4SVGl2

Definitely get that. When you look at what’s right in front of you, go back to basics, it seems so simple. We evolved this way. In recent times we tried to completely change our diet and are seeing the negative consequences of it.

In my mind it all clicks, I’m hoping to find more empirical evidence rather than anecdotal evidence of personal testimonials. That said, all these testimonials are very encouraging.

Now does it have to be red meat all the time? How about chicken and eggs some days? I like the idea of red meat but might have to make a compromise in the meantime, ya know?

Anecdotally, my improvements have come with eggs and cheese daily for brekky, fish oil pills when I'm not eating fish twice a week, mostly cow and lamb with occasional chicken or pork. Before carnivore I loved chicken and shunned most other meats but my tastes have changed to prefer reds. I'm also better and understanding what my body seems to need (not sure if that's the exercise or dietary changes) so I assume there's some better nutritional value in reds.

All animal products are totally fair game! Just gotta make sure you're getting plenty of fat, since that will be your new fuel source (vs. carbs). I personally haven't eaten chicken in months just because I feel so much more energetic on beef, since it's more fatty. But if you're throwing eggs & butter in there you should be fine, feel free to experiment!

There is a book that spells. It all out

Lies my doctor told me by

Dr Ken berry

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