Reading comprehension is sorely lacking on your part. But I’ll elaborate anyways: cult like behavior surrounding Bitcoin doesn’t mean the idea of Bitcoin is bad or necessarily cultish. I’m rooting for Bitcoin, I hope it succeeds at all its project goals. That doesn’t exonerate you for acting like a cultist, however. Pythagoras was right about a handful of noteworthy things, but his cult also believed a bunch of nonsense on top of all that. You can be right about things and still be in a cult, being in a cult doesn’t automatically make you wrong about everything - it just calls into question how you arrived at those conclusions. If you believe something fervently but can’t explain why, you’re not actually thinking for yourself.
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You honestly think I’m going to sit here and explain to you how I came to the conclusion that bitcoin is all that matters and the fight of our time when you come in slinging insults left and right? Your parents should’ve slapped you more.
You started being disrespectful way earlier my man. What do you think those laughing emojis were communicating? Maybe self awareness is the real problem.
No. You called me incompetent for suggesting that central banks and govts would hold back human flourishing.. which they LITERALLY DO. Print money, inflate the supply… then what.. put the brakes on growth. Uh oh, inflation is raging, better Raise interest rates, control the cost and price of all things. Make capital for any new business too expensive.. Curb business and make it bend to their will. Where exactly is my incompetence?
Duh, you forgot the inflation is rising, better start a proxy war part…😉
One tard at a time please.
Oh! Sorry! You’re overwhelmed. Please, take your time.
Debate is frustrating, I enjoyed reading much of what you said in this conversation, but name calling and derogatory defamation weakens your position. The beauty of this place is, if they’re not competent and respectful, block them and forget it ever happened.
I was saying that the people you’re talking about are not competent enough to get the results they want consistently, not your competency. Seriously, reading ANY books would be good enough to fix this level of literacy.
Takes like this is why it’s easier to just say “HFSP” to most people
Bitcoin is a tool of self interest. If you don’t think it’s to your benefit, don’t use it!
You are more than free to continue using your central banker cuck bucks, or whatever shitcoin you choose. You’re simply going to end up destroying your wealth, or have it stolen by the people who create the currency.
Good luck with that!
Read the full string of messages retard. The disagreement is not about the benefits of bitcoin.
If you actually understood the difference between Bitcoin and all other current forms of money, you’d understand why it has a cult following. Passion is not a negative feature - it’s a requirement for success.
What “cult” has as much infighting as bitcoin?? We literally argue constantly to try to find the best path forward with truth at the base layer
Are you talking about the engineering side?
No. I’m talking about those of us that are all in on bitcoin.. we disagree on so many things it’s not even funny. We fight constantly. The opposite of cult like behavior.
I haven’t seen any of that here or anywhere.
Nice try, fed 😆
Crypto bro flavored NPC
Damn, I was giving you credit. You hadn’t used crypto bro yet. Now you checked all the boxes. 😂😂😂😂
I promise you that is taking place. Bitcoiners are all over the map when it comes to personal beliefs and ideas for what the future should look like. Just because you see most of us saying bitcoin above all else doesn’t mean we agree on one single thing other than that fact. You just assumed it was so.
See all I’m getting is a bunch of spam because I didn’t buy in completely enough.
I don’t know what that means. There’s no “buying in”.. it’s up to you to study the history of money and decide for yourself where you see life heading under a fiat standard vs where it could potentially head under a bitcoin standard
Totally settled in on the idea that you’re an actual retard at this point. If you were actually reading any of the posts you were responding to you’d know this is a total non-sequitur.
Bitcoin literally is a cult lol, they’ll always tell you that you don’t understand and need to “study” it but never specify what exactly you’re missing to get to where they are.
I actually am retarded, thank you for noticing. It’s odd that you spent so much of your day arguing with a retard. Strange use of time don’t you think? We can both agree that time is actually the scarcest commodity
My favorite retard. 🥹💜🙏🏻
Omg he noticed 🥹
Right?! I tried to tell him it’s a compliment where we com from. 🥹
Btw if anyone wanted the Bonafide Idiot badge lmk know and i’ll probably forget
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Someone’s cultural background, and existing indoctrination determines what they’re truly hearing within your message. The broader the girth of one’s knowledge and experiences, the more a voice can be used as an instrument. There’s a major difference between listening to understand one’s message verses listening to respond. One of them removes ego.
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Bad advocates, you see the dog pile that’s happening right now? That’s what drives people away and makes them think all these guys are a bunch of crazy people. When you see the same reasoning say Bitcoin is the future say that the banks and governments are actively conspiring to ruin quality of life it makes the whole enterprise look unreasonable.
If you think it’s unreasonable, then don’t be a part of it. I’m here to acquire more Bitcoin, and I’m fine with you having less.
I don’t understand what problem you have with the ‘reasoning’ of Bitcoiners though. It’s really very simply and sane logic. I’m sure you’ve heard it before, but I’ll spell it out one last time for you.
Governments can issue money to fund their desires at no cost, therefore allowing them to potentially act against the will of their constituents while devaluing their citizens currency.
Bitcoin is a system where no government or individual can control the issuance of money, and therefore forces governments to spend responsibly and in accordance to the will of their people, as well as allows everyone around the world to have savings which maintain value over time without investment risk. Since this system is a net benefit over the current one, demand will increase with time. Considering Bitcoins supply is fixed and the new issuance is decreasing, the value of a Bitcoin will increase.
What are your other questions or criticisms?
I’ll stick with bitcoin, you read the books I’ll meet you back here in 10 or so when more currencies have collapsed do to govt manipulation and mismanagement.
#remindmeofthosidiotin10years
When did I ever advocate for fiat currencies in this conversation. Please, I’ll wait. I’m sure with your staggering cognitive powers you can find it.
If you are advocating on behalf of any govt or central bank you are, by default, advocating for fiat
Can't quick alc/heroine addiction cold turkey
Where did I advocate for the banks? I’m literally calling them incompetent.
You said they aren’t against human flourishing. I couldn’t disagree more. They are for a level of flourishing that THEY choose. They control and manipulate the price of all things. In fact, we don’t even know the cost of anything until it’s priced on a bitcoin standard. There’s generational price manipulation to benefit the issuers themselves. Until we completely clear the cache, I trust the price of nothing.
Human flourishing on a bitcoin standard is truth. Money that isn’t weaponized by the issuer is pure. Only then will the “cost of capital” have an actual meaning, imo
Lauren stop zapping me so much!! 😂😂🤙🙏⚡️⚡️⚡️
Let’s back up… what is your personal stand? I do not want to make assumptions.
It’s not so much about competence IMHO. It’s more about human nature, like in animal farm, Macbeth or brave new world.
Competency is required to intentionally hinder human flourishing at that scale. It is very much an issue of competency and foresight. I agree that the centralization presents issues since the cost of mistakes is much higher than in a decentralized system. There’s also the problem of iterations which is harder with more centralized systems. He’s in favor because he thinks the system is out to get him; I’m in favor because I think the system is fundamentally incompetent. Make sense?
Ever heard of stackchain?
I refuse to chat with more than one retard at a time.
That’s a compliment where I come from.
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Sorry heard that's not bob. Unless he was trolling me
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Chewy your 3K April bet is down to 3 blocks a day 👀
What is the Block Height??
Also in case you missed this the other day 
https://twitter.com/rwawoe/status/1632142555482853377?s=46&t=j5uIiYv_OUrG48mBNxHqFQ
I definitely did miss that. I have popped into Twitter once for three minutes this month
yes.
Bitcoin is math.
People’s behavior has no impact on its operation.
People are rarely better then their incentives. So what are the incentives of Bitcoiners?
1 stack sats
2 teach people who want to learn
Number 2 fades away after awhile except in rare circumstances, because people are catastrophically stupid. This is most likely as a result of people not being better then their incentives and making assumptions that tomorrow will be like today.
Most of us will tell you to go learn about it yourself. Because we’ve had so many of these conversations that it’s tiresome. When you’ve spent a lot of time being obviously right, it gets old hearing the same wrong arguments. Sometimes it’s even painful to watch someone be wrong. FTX is a good example of that. Any Bitcoiner worth a shit was telling anyone who would listen that shit was a scam. But… we we’re called cult members. So fuck it. We’re in a cult. A cult that is right and doesn’t cut off its own nose to spite its face.
There are people who want to learn about Bitcoin that aren’t argumentative and don’t think they have it all figured out. Our time is best spent there.
If you actually want to learn.
“The Bitcoin Standard” by Saif is good.
The way you people interact with Bitcoin has nothing to do with math.
Ok I’m going to tell your future start guy.
Your theory that Bitcoin is a speculative asset and that Bitcoiners are a cult makes you Bitcoin aware in the present. But you’re too smart and maybe to scared to save a significant amount of your time and labor in Bitcoin. But, you are paying attention from peanut galley.
You’ll watch it for 5-10 years then you remember every interaction you had with Bitcoiners and deeply regret that you were so smart 5-10 years ago.
I mean, there was money to be made on those NFTs too. Ultimately it’s a gamble and while it’s fun to gamble from time to time you shouldn’t bet an amount you can’t afford to lose. I don’t regret my betting habits because I’m not a gambling addict.
NFTs are not Bitcoin
Both are blockchain technologies. Both have their immediate value largely driven by trendiness. They both have been used to make money and we know at least one has a group of people left holding the bag. They’re more similar than you want to admit.
Yeah I don’t know why I’m engaging with this. But if you had talked to any bitcoiner about NTFs they would have told you they were stupid.
I’m sensing a pattern here.
Speculation
Cult
Gambling
I’ve had this conversation at least a thousand times. I don’t know what to tell people like you. You will learn when you learn.
Clearly you didn’t learn anything about communication from those conversations. Or you never developed the self awareness to see why bitcoin people come off as weird and crazy to the general population.