What’s a good place to spend a few months or so where everyone is a native level English speaker besides US? Is Canada tolerable? Best if it feels like a vacation destination. I want to expose my kid to more English besides his immediate family and don’t mind staying some place for part of the year.

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I’m thinking maybe put him in some sort of summer activities camp. I really don’t want him to attend US schools… and it would probably need to be in the summer

Canada really depends on the season and what you’d like to do in your down time.

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So the implication is that the UK is out entirely? Lol

Never UK 🤣

Lol

This is a mistake. England is the best in the summer.

I hear you. I haven’t done extended stays outside of the US, but if I were you I’d go off of surroundings and try to become as closely acquainted with whoever would have your kid during the day as possible. For example, maybe some cool camps exist near national parks in remote parts of the US, so points for surroundings, and then hopefully you can interview the people that run it and get a good grasp on what they expose the kids to. My experience of the US is that the people differ drastically depending on where you go, so I’d bet you can still find a suitable spot here.

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Alabama. Your kid needs to spend time in Alabama

Lawl

Yes Canada is good. Central to Western has great sights to see.

Australia

Amazing place to spend some time, City trips, and great outdoors

Belize

Sydney Australia šŸ‡¦šŸ‡ŗ but the accents are strong and kinda wonky.

Many options to choose from.

What else are you looking for in your getaway? That would help narrow the options.

Just lots of kid to kid interaction in fun and adventurous environments. Sight seeing is secondary and less important. Language immersion without school.

Awesome. Is your children’s first language not English?

Or you just want to them to be able to interact?

I’m in Thailand. Many people speak English here but definitely not everyone and definitely note everyone natively.

But tons of westerners.

My kid is bilingual in Japanese and English but his English exposure is limited to me and my wife (we speak English at home). He is not as fluent in English as in Japanese I’d say. I want him to be 100% fluent. I think he’ll get there just by interacting with us, but I’d rather he get additional exposure outside of family and in a native English environment.

Gotcha. So cool btw. I love Japan and the culture.

The language is from another universe to me

My experience with immigrant families (including my own) is that children almost never achieve full fluency in their parents’ mother tongue. They may be able to communicate effectively with their parents and reach a reasonable proficiency in the language, but they will consistently retain a noticeable accent. I have observed this with Portuguese (myself and several friends), as well as French, English, and German.

If you want a child to develop true fluency in English, send them to an English-speaking country before their teenage years. I have seen children up to about age 15 lose their accent this way. However, those who moved after 18 generally retained their accent and never reached full fluency.

He’s 8. That’s why I’m doing it now.

might be too soon. He might not retain the fluency.

Doesn’t have to be a single trip. Can be over several years.

He’ll be close to 9 by the time we go. I think 9-12 is the sweet spot for language development and retention.

i don't think that reaching a 100% fluent level in another language is possible with just interacting with the same people as different people might have a slight difference way of speaking.

each place has their own unique twist in the way a language is structured and also slight different pronunciations.

traveling is the only way to 100% solve it, but if that's not possible interacting with media (like youtube videos, books, etc) in said language might help with less cost.

Even more so if those are related to things they like as it gives them a bigger incentive to want to understand them

Canada is great depending on location, desires, and time of year. When would you be looking to go?

Probably next summer

Hit me up if you like. Lots of suggestions. BC For sure. You guys like the outdoors?

Ireland, central west coast like Galway or Clifden. County Wicklow is also a great place. Waterford is also a great option. Most people in Ireland are very friendly and the cost of living is moderate if you choose the right place. Rains a lot but it’s a beautiful place.

prague

Didn’t think Prague would have many native English speakers? (I’ve never been)

It does not šŸ˜‚ except people vacationing there from UK. But many people speak English to some degree, especially younger ones.

Either coast of Canada is beautiful. The Eastern coast has a bit of an accent, while the west is less so. Vancouver Island and the mainland, on the west coast are a good vacation type destination. The Island I especially like, I make sure to spend some time there every couple years.

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Is it just the school aspect that you are trying to avoid?

For the most part

What about a US territory like Saipan, I’ve heard good things about the place… and there is a majority Asian population so it might not be a complete culture shock for the kid. Some US states you could just homeschool… our state, there is no real govt involvement… the honor system technically that the kids are having 180 days of school and that the required subjects are covered, but there is no real reporting. Just a thought. But there are a ton of other options too… but fuel for thought, nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s said Canada only has one option for red meat, well done leather.

I can’t believe no one has suggested NZ yet!!! It is winter but there’s plenty of variety north to south, depending on the range of vocabulary you want to hear :) and the climate

Australia probably pretty cheap from Japan? if you head north to Queensland you get the bonus of amazing weather and beaches.

Byron Bay or Surfers Paradise spare both great.

Go to Tofino. Rent an airbnb. Don’t go in the rainy season.

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For Mediterranean experience Malta. Ireland is also stunning

Hawaii

What about Singapore?

Hawaii big island

Vancouver is beautiful. Just avoid downtown and the places with a bad reputation.

Victoria island is also wonderful.

Are you looking for ski/mountain type vacation during the winter, or during the spring summer months?

England where they speak English

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Saipan. Technically part of the US but the furthest island. Next to Guam. I promise it will feel like a vacation

Australia is great country to bring up family. However, now it's turning into a communist shithole importing half of India