If you were going to focus on generating revenue right now, how would you figure out what to do?
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My immediate focus would be on validating a pain point that someone is already willing to pay a premium to solve. This involves three rapid steps:
1.Identify Existing Spend (Not New Need)
Question:
Where are businesses/individuals currently spending $5,000+ per year with poor results, high complexity, or intense frustration?
Focus: I wouldn't invent a new market; I would look to disrupt an existing, inefficient budget line (e.g., inefficient marketing agency spend, time wasted on repetitive tasks, high subscription costs for underutilized tools).
Goal: Find a budget line where my solution offers a clear 10x return on investment or a massive simplification.
2. Offer the "Done-For-You" Service First
Action:
Before building a product or a large team, I would immediately sell a high-priced, "done-for-you" service to solve that pain point for 3-5 clients.
Price Validation: The price must be high enough to hurt ($5k+ per client). If they pay this, the pain is real.
Goal: Generate initial revenue, build three powerful case studies, and, most importantly, learn the exact workflow and specific language needed to solve the problem efficiently.
3. Productize the Process (The Scalable Asset)
Action:
Take the service workflow validated in Step 2 and turn it into a scalable digital product, template, or SaaS tool. This ensures I am building something the market has already proven it will pay for.
Goal: Transition from selling time (service) to selling leveraged value (product), which is the only way to scale revenue quickly.
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Love this vibe. Like a ikigai hunting strategy
Run a lightning node ā”ļø
Yeah Iāve been thinking about this. How do the economics of it actually stack up?
Itās certainly not free money as some may thinkā a good amount of work and dedication is definitely requiredā but a well-run lightning node can be insanely profitable in 2025 and beyond.
If you look back through some of my older notes youāll find some hints (Search for #Nodelouš)
Fascinating. I love this concept. Open market. Provide computer value, support the network, get paid
Are you able to share revenue data somehow?
My issue initially is nowhere to setup the node physically
How does it look if you run via nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm for example?
Yes, exactly! Literally anyone can spin up a node and join the network to participate in the future of finance.
I have shared some revenue hints at times if you look carefully
Also a node can definitely be run in the cloud, many nodes do run on AWS or Hetzner for example
I tried running a Lightning node to earn sats about a year ago, but gave up after a while. It grew too big and locked up too much of my bitcoin. I shut it down and recently started again. Now mainly for my own good node, and if I earn enough fees to cover costs, Iām happy.
I think itās both fun and a way to contribute to decentralization.
I also have a small core Lightning node just for incoming payments from Ocean from my miners (used to heat the apartment).
Have you considered charging a fee to teach people how to do this? And an ongoing fee for help managing it going forward?
I will gladly help anyone who wants to spin up a node! That much is easy enough to teach/learn.
The actual liquidity and channel management is a whole other beast, and a constantly moving target! It took me a year or two at least to understand the basics before I was profitable, and I am still constantly learning / trying new strategies every day.
I have vaguely considered the possibility and would be interested to take on capital allocation and return dividends since I am maxed out as to the amount of sats I can personally dedicate in outbound liquidity. But it would have to be structured correctly (legally), and then thereās the tedious problem of custody of funds which I am definitely not comfortable with!
What kind of transaction volume to channel liquidity ratio are we talking about?
My node currently routes around 3,000-4,000 tx per day, which amounts to anywhere from100% to 400% of available outbound liquidity daily.
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Revisiting this thread since it stuck in my mind. Does just making a node available to the network give you volume, or do you have to specifically tie into a known active transaction network or promote somehow for volume? Feel free to save typing and link me to where youāve answered such basic questions before if you like. Iāve never explored the moving parts of lightening other than as a user, so you sparked my curiosity into something new to me.
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Making the node available and opening channels you will certainly get some traffic and routing.
But that alone is not enough for it to be sustainable / profitable.
Lightning at the base from a noderunnerās perspective is a liquidity marketplace. Buy low, put that liquidity where it is needed, and sell high. Itās a bit of an art and learning curve to do this effectively. And a constantly moving target as well, since liquidity, volume, etc on the network as a whole are constantly shifting.
nostr:npub1gkgyk28lurjuhyfjlxsga9mw6lc0c47c8pmcr65usre9d3qjcx6q9cyk5m itās caught my attention as well
An infrastructure play, with Bitcoin/sats, with yield, in a growing market, high barrier initially
You could see specialist funds popping up to add liquidity
I wonder how you could do it in a non-custodial manner for an investor?
Lots of questions
Iāve got Jesse from Amboss joining me next week on the podcast so keep an eye out for that
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Fantastic. I spent time talking with Jesse in Nashville, and his comments from our conversation actually lead to my question earlier. Jesse was talking about the need for transaction volume, and finding it to achieve a volume of yield on your staked coin. Anyone looking at this thread with intrigue; pile your filler questions to Jake so we get some good pleb how-to angles worked into his cast.
Awesome, will be tuning in! š¤
Yes this is the big key, how to do it non-custodial? Iād love to be able to take on/manage more liquidityā I could easily offer a fairly guaranteed 5-10% yield and still cover costs plus earn a cut for āliquidity management.ā But I am not about to start holding custody of other peopleās funds, and a lightning node in essence is a hot walletā so not altogether without risk, especially as the value of liquidity under management grows. Canāt wait to hear what ideas nostr:npub18yvpnchj7yaepjk8yz2pn66hfmmup505aqvx0lpyc3aree0g5fyq8clpz3 might have to add to the convo
Nice. Iād like to hear from nostr:npub18yvpnchj7yaepjk8yz2pn66hfmmup505aqvx0lpyc3aree0g5fyq8clpz3 as well
Got Jesse joining the podcast next week so we can learn from this insights as well
A software that automatically manages based on your proprietary analysis or proprietary reports recommending management strategies could be a big thing for you.
In the same way that analysts sell information, ābuy alertsā or something along those lines, you could sell to lightning channel operators
A subscription like substack
Or a private 1/1 coaching program
Even a weekly mentor call
Lots of ways to package it up
100% This seems like a business model that would be a lot of fun for people with capital they want to allocate to bitcoin but are scared by the "lack of yield"
nostr:npub19tcpurtt6xulhw0r6sc404j9jraj0h8me2lzs7z2tqewz7l0hpas59nlea is working on a product called Rails that tries to solve this. I donāt know too much about the details but Iām sure nostr:npub18yvpnchj7yaepjk8yz2pn66hfmmup505aqvx0lpyc3aree0g5fyq8clpz3 would fill you in