If you care about actually mitigating mining centralization concerns then surely the answer isn't let's have luke unilaterally decide what is spam.
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I agree with this.
Sure it is. Let any miner decide what spam is at their pool and the market decide what they want to use.
Well yeah, but isnt the OCEAN roadmap to go full stratum v2? After such point, wouldnt you admit that the decentralisation profile is a lot better?
thats why its good to have many different mining pools, including lukes.
funny how this is the same thing nostr will have through to prevent relay centralization, we always need to have the choice in relays, same with mining pools.
He’s not deciding what is spam, the hash rate is.
Me está cayendo mal LUCKE, por favor nunca me decepciones Odell 🙏
I heard luke once censored a block that said "PEE PEE POO POO" in the OP_RETURN
I'm kidding of course but yeah the spam thing is just a backdoor for every kind of censorship
I heard luke once censored a block because the hash had three consecutive 6's and that's the devil's number
Why are you spreading lies?
It has little to do with Luke.
The question is, should the reference client respect & enforce the value specified by the user, when setting the -datacarrierlimit parameter.
100%
How many mining rig grants and small pool start ups could have been funded with $10-20M? True decentralizion opportunity. Instead one guy needs that much for what?
You talk like Bitcoin was a permissioned blockchain with OCEAN being the only pool. If you don't like what he's doing, start your own pool.
It's not censorship if there are alternatives.
Its a shame that anyone that proclaims to be "bitcoin" then "filters" txs.
Not very bitcoin
Literally every Bitcoin node has done so since Satoshi's time
Hide behind that Luke, if it makes you feel better. Filter/censor, spuds/potatoes. Start down that road and slide into conformity
as long as every txn does fit in the next block then whoever mines it has to select which txns to include and which to leave out i.e filter/censor/etc.
Some miners filter to maximize total block reward, and others filter to maximize the number of financial/economic txns in the block.
Who is anyone to tell someone else how to construct their block?
Shall we decide by social credit score? Maybe by skin colour? Perhaps we can "filter" any tx that supports Russia?
Money should not be a weapon
Whoever mines the block can include or exclude any txn they want. They are not morally obligated to add any one txn. No one is entitled to block space other than whoever mines the next block. Best you can do is economically incentivize whoever mined the block to sell you block space.
Unless you have a moral argument (necessarily rooted in religion/God) as to why what OCEAN is doing is wrong, then all you have is your opinion on what is right and wrong. Your opinion is not any more valid that Luke’s or anyone else’s opinion.
A pastry baker that refused to bake a wedding cake for a homosexual couple because it goes against their believes is not ‘weaponizing’ desserts. That is absurd. Forcing or pressuring said baker to bake the cake is what is wrong not the opposite.
Same deal here. Find another miner, you’re not entitled to other people’s services
Yeah, it should be each bitcoiner voting what they believe is spam by configuring their node!
Oh wait, that's what Luke allowed us by patching -datacarrierlimit...
good news is decentralized miners can point their hash to any pool they want. I'd take 'tx selective' pools over KYC pools.
very true
While Luke sets off my spidey senses. I'm willing to see how his alternative goes. I think more pools will be set up that mine for or against certain transactions. Like binance that prioritise their own cheap transactions first.
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Nice strawman matt
The statement that people just make up nonexistent positions to be mad about could not be more true
There's a lot of buzz around your post.
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I am pretty sure the point is that he can't decide it unilaterally. He can only decide it for his mining pool, and anyone who disagrees can mine on any other pool.
Every single node unilaterally decides what is spam through their mempool policies. If you are not tech savvy enough and don't understand the details of how Bitcoin clients work, just wait until the dust has settled and let someone explain it to you. You are a big influencer in this space and therefore carry a lot of responsiblity to not mislead people with ignorant comments like this.
Fortunately I don't think he will centralize mining too much this way