Browsing global, too many ppl don't have lightning addresses set up. We need to do a better job onboarding the newbs. They're leaving sats on the table 🥲
How can we do better? #asknostr
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Maybe some people not interested in Zaps?
I also facing some pblm but now i fixed my wallet nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc
I think the closing the gap between npubs w/o lightning and npubs with lightning is one of the biggest things we can do to increase retention. Zaps are addicting and good.
like sats on the exchange...
This also frustrates me, I try to warn as many people as I can.
"⚡How do I get paid for content?" in the menu with a mini-guide popup when you click it.. and at the start after downloading the app
maybe an idea?
and add after they are done setting e.g. wos/zeus up, they should share this with nostr with an automated note they can publish, like so
"Just done setting up my lightning adres! #zapme #plebchain #introduction"
[Post note]
and then we follow the tag #zapme and hopefully online nostriches test-zap the newbs? or maybe a bot can do it even?
Lightning is unfortunately a foreign word for many Bitcoin newcomers. A way needs to be found to instantly associate Lightning with Bitcoin.
Do people need to know that Android is Linux?
True, not many people know that. Still, we need to find a simple way that even newbies to Bitcoin immediately think of Lightning. How can we make the good comparison between Android and Linux as easy as Bitcoin with Lightning? Nobody needs to know that Android is built on top of Linux. Nevertheless, we must succeed in finding a way for newcomers to be able to use Lightning easily/immediately. Your question is a good question and not easy to answer.
Optional in app guide in clients
It is something that we as nostr:npub1stemstrls4f5plqeqkeq43gtjhtycuqd9w25v5r5z5ygaq2n2sjsd6mul5 and nostr:npub18m76awca3y37hkvuneavuw6pjj4525fw90necxmadrvjg0sdy6qsngq955 teams are planning to do, we keep delaying it but seems super important. I think every client need to work on that sooner rather than later. ⚡️
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ELI5 tutorials would be great for a lotta plebs and we shouldn't scare them with self custodial solutions right at the beginning.
In my opinion the focus should be on getting new users set up with and backing up their 12 words. Once you have that foundation, nostr private keys, non-custodial lightning seed words, etc, all of that can be derived from/based on those 12 words, using standard passphrases or BIP85's, etc. Otherwise you are having to stitch all these things together yourself, and is not natural.
New version starts to invite people to talk to one another.
Oh, that's neat!
Someone should prepare a copypasta with link to tutorial & stuff 🤔
copy pasta all the time on twitter 🫡
Check out this post that will suggest a few simple steps to help you get started:
http://lnshort.it/nostr-welcome/
🤙🏼
"a truly censorship-resistant alternative to Twitter that has a chance of working"
https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr
NOSTR GUIDE
Current is the only client that has a built in, zero effort, (mind you custodial) wallet.
We need more of this. not everyone is going to be concerned with self-custody if it's their first experience with bitcoin.
Put on the follow list a bot or someone that says onboarding help
Maybe even make it like a must… not tricky to opt out off but a logical choice would be to follow and confirm maybe. I am also a newb that’ll just jump in to #nostr #newbs
I agree with Vitor note1rrdet363m0sm3d64h9fs2lw6f9vkcddg665ug4eke6htqwk9x9asuc66vx
If I encounter someone with a broken or missing lightning button, I DM them and tell them I’m trying to zap them.
After a few days on the client, the user should be prompted to create a lightning wallet. A wallet like alby should be integrated on the client so the user doesn’t have to leave to create it. This would make it as seamless as possible.
⚡️⚡️⚡️ #zap ⚡️⚡️⚡️ #zapathon #Coffeechain #Plebchain #Grownostr #BeOG
What are some good wallet options that are integrated to clients?
As a "newb" to nostr on iOS I found the Damus + Alby + Bluewallet combo to work ok, but it's a bit of work to setup.
Not completely sure what other services and wallets to try out!
Using plebstr client and pasting a Muun address into the Lightning field does nothing for me when I look at my profile afterwards.
I zap for halp!
This will be fixed when 1) people get more acquainted with lightning in general and 2) Bolt-12 gets fully released to be used by self-custodial wallets instead of LNURL.
clients like Primal don't have a sign-up or log-in page or even a documentation link. newbs will see posts and have no idea how to start using the website.
I think this is more of an issue with lightning than Nostr.
It’s be amazing if they was a Nostr client with a built in node, but until then the on-boarding process for lighting is probably too steep or people will use custodian lightning wallets.
Finally added one to my account, thank you for the reminder!
Improving the UX of the Nostr clients would be a good start :)
Is mine set up properly? I tried adding an address, using amethyst on Android. Newb looking for advise!
I see your problem by opening your profile on Amethyst.. you set a LN Invoice as your LN Address, a LN Address should look like an email, like: thisisanexample@walletofsatoshi.com.
As of right now you can only get one of these by either hosting your own LN node + LN Address webserver, or using a custodial LN wallet like Wallet of Satoshi, where they give you one.
This is one of the main problems with zaps today cause the easy way is to use a custodial wallet like WoS.
You can find a list of LN Address providers here: https://lightningaddress.com/#providers
Usually people on Nostr use Wallet of Satoshi, Alby, ZBD LN Addresses.
So all you need is to install one of those wallets, copy the LNAddress, the one that looks like an email, and paste it where you pasted the LN Invoice before. Cheers! 🤙