The most important thing here is algorithm choice. Open sourcing an algo isn’t enough. Ideal is people can make and choose whatever algorithm suits them.

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Click and drag toolkit for creating personalized algorithms, then sharing them with others

Sounds great until you start implementing this and find out you can’t simply solve it on the client side and solving this on server side is, to say it mildly, unclear

do we need an algo ?

Can be a time saver. But most important is being able to turn on or off.

and choosing which one you run

and that not everyone chooses the same one

Any algo is like a tax code, where complexity favours the few.

The most important thing is that it works for you. Not for the guy who sells your eyeballs.

Does it save time or help you spend more time?

This question hasn't been answered by humanity yet, i don't know if it's achievable or not - hard opinions one or way or another are unconvincing so far.

I say no! (If I miss it, I miss it.)

An algo is like autocorrect for content. A better method is “on demand”.

Exactly.

Yes. Discoverability is a nightmare right now.

Ok , so we would need to think about some discovery algorithms user can manage ? That would be cool

Why is Xitter’s algo so bad? It constantly throws up videos of murders and violence and car crashes and generally despressing stuff

Because it’s how you like it

Define bad. Car crashes, violence and murders are not bad in context of internet — they are reflection of real world.

☝️ that 💯

Seriously, npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m , this is way over my head. But I still appreciate all the work. This Grandma thanks you!!!

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The temptation to monetize by prioritizing content is only going to grow as user count grows and advertisers find this place. We should vote with our usage at first signs of caving in. Transparency & choice in algo are going to define the truly great nostr clients.

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jack left out “what’s most important to me”.

he’s all about making bank on algos.

all that means is the most popular algos will become underground, community built because what he is talking about would become the next centralization.

He's algos' guy.🙂 The whole "censorship resilience'' is a marketing strategy to get more users.

and if you want to see who will cave to the corporate fiat God first, just go review developers interactions with the fake Jeff Bezos before they were sure he was fake.

it’s illuminating.

If an algo is implemented to #nostr I will quit here and never come back again. If anyone wants an algorithm based nostr application, they are free to go. nostr:note1ff8v4ujcfz7cuu4w8tmlr8953rtqyqe0wvltx45sv4dt65fy7ukqfrhmn5

Radical Man!

How can you even do that if notes are spread around dozens of relays and no one even knows where they are?

The more important thing is to first distinguish personalization algos and general lists with different sorting criteria

Then come to the point that even though current media’s algos are annoying with a lot of ads and attention catchers, you don’t really want absence of algos and just seeing your followers — you still want to see new content in order to expand your network, your views, your interests

And only after those steps you have to understand how you want to connect different algos to your feed, who will implement it and how and what is the base cost of such a feature (which I doubt anyone tried to implement earlier in production)

Just found a bug in liking this note

I tried liking it on Lyn's Boost but it did it showed it in Gigis response, without liking it in the boost, so I could theoretically like it to infinity lol

i want the happy algorithm that filters out the past and current things

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What credibility about 'choice' has a man who mastered censorship and used algorithms against people and freedom.