I don’t want to ask for permission from anyone. I’d rather just publish an apk on my site and tell people to use obtainium or something, at least for now until im on the play store. I don’t see what advantages zapstore has for sovereign publishing over an apk and your own server, as it seems strictly worse because it is permissioned.
What happened to permissionless tech?
That’s the eventual goal. We’re making the right steps. All I am looking for is to determine a trusted signer for an app. First, we need to step away from the permissions platform app stores, then provide a permissionless way to discover and host the apps.
Exactly, permissionless way = managing relays + blossom servers
I'm working on it while keeping a safe experience for everyone in the meantime.
you npub need to whitelisted
I will clarify this matter in a repost.
I am working on adding relay management to the next version of the app. I promised I would and it is happening.
Sorry if you didn't get the memo nostr:nprofile1qqsr9cvzwc652r4m83d86ykplrnm9dg5gwdvzzn8ameanlvut35wy3gpzdmhxw309aex2mrp0yhx5c34x5hxxmmdqyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvqyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnvv9hxgpywa92 but asking me would sufficed.
By the way, I actually thought about removing the whitelist feature for relay.zapstore.dev (more on this soon).
As for the "relevant who follow" feature when first installing an app, it's meant to protect users, not to create an "affinity scam" of which you accused me of.
If the UX is not ideal, I appreciate constructive criticism, not passive-aggressive rants. I have zero interest in these kind of interaction when we should all be pushing freedom tech forward.
Zapstore is fully nostr based and will always be. It is indeed permissionless tech, I just need a little more time to finish the feature.
This "permissionless tech" will require *you* as a developer to go through KYC from 2026 onwards if you want users to sideload your APK on a normal Android phone.
Tech in general exists in a permissioned zone. I don't know what permissionless tech even means? Even Ham radios require a license, and they can triangulate an operator down if that operator doesn't have one.
It's like talking about permissionless passports or something similarly weird-sounding.
I prefer to say that tech exists and is successful as a result of (voluntary) convention. Governments (especially, the EU) are making the mistake of confusing this with (mandatory) compliance.
We are still in early days figuring out the conventions and not jumping headlong into permissioned compliance.
I think it's pretty up in the air. While you'd never know it from Nostr there is widespread support for some of this regulatory stuff. For the keeping children off certain sites thing, it's all well and good to say it should be up to parents, but a lot of parents are working all hours and struggling with just getting by, and getting a little sleep too, they'd welcome some help from regulators to keep their kids off certain social media and porn sites that are known to be bad for child health. It could be that most people want tighter controls, and that those who don't, while well intentioned, are in the minority.
Sometimes when people say "permissionless" they mean "OK to use until you're noticed by people who can and want to stop you", right?
Correct, as such radio is permissionless. For your radio to function, you don't need to first ask someone else to turn it on. It basically comes down the question of is there a gate you have to go through or not.
So a car is permissionless, eventhough you need a license. But if they install a breathalyzer into it and you have to pass that test before it even starts, it is not permissionless.
This is very important, because a lot of what is going on, is turning things permissioned. During COVID they imposed this QR-code permissioned society, putting up 'gates' everywhere in the physical world; and a bunch of these new internet laws do the same where you first need identify yourself before the gates to the web open.
Be very aware of people who propose permissioned systems, because they limit your liberty.
But what does that even mean? You use the ham radio without a license, but then you get triangulated, there's a knock on the door, and you're issued a fine. How is that permissionless?
You can just walk into a grocery store and take stuff, there's no gate. Doesn't mean shoplifting is a permissionless activity.
It's just delayed consequences for not having permission. And it's the existence of the consequences that determine whether something is permissioned or not, not the exact timing of those consequences.
Why is the difference between starting in a cage, and having to ask to be let out all the time; and being outside of a cage, and being put in only those instances of transgression; so hard for you to understand?
Sorry but shoplifting is not a permissionless activity and you won't convince me otherwise.
Are you OK with submitting it to F-Droid for packaging?
