The best cheese for burgers is American and honestly I don’t even like admitting that but it’s true. I wish it were cheddar. But it’s not. If you know you know.
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American cheese tastes like fiat slop
I wish I could agree, but I don’t.
That's only true within the context of other American cheeses that just aren't called American.
True.
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I disagree. Aged cheddar every time. And I eat burgers a few days a week
I don't do many burgers anymore (too greasy) but when I do, the burger is ruined the moment any cheese other than pepperjack is added to it.
It’s true, can’t fight it.
Gonna go out on a limb and say blue...
Cornish Yarg
American cheese is technically not cheese 😂
Non sei mai stato in Italia?
No
I think you would love it
I think so too. I’d like to eat bread that doesn’t destroy my intestines.
You should try "pane do altamura": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pane_di_Altamura
"Breadmaking has been described in the Altamura area as early as the first century BC, when the Roman poet Horace praised the local bread in his poetry collection Satires. "
Do they export this (frozen) to the US? I'm looking for some decent bread. Or importing flour from Italy -- do you have any recommendations?
Yes, it's very easy to make it. But you have to buy the Italian flour, buy farina do grano duro rimacinata. One brand you will certainly find is la molisana. That flour has less gluten and more protein than the modern shit you find around. Then the recipe is simple, mix the bacteria with 660cc of water until is mixed for around 5 minutes, then put the flour little by little until it gets solid then massage a lot with your hands. When it's well massaged put some salt, like a soup spoon. Let it rest the whole night, next morning around 45-55 minutes at 300° at the oven. This bread remains good to eat out of fridge for a week, you will love it and feel very healthy and without hunger. Let me know how it went for you.
That's the flour, another good brand is "Caputo": https://piccolosgastronomia.com/products/la-molisana-re-milled-durum-wheat-semolina-semola-rimacinata-2-2-lb
Thank you. I don't have sour dough starter and have never made it.
I just googled to get instructions. This will be a bit more of a project than I currently have time for (I'm juggling several deadlines for business proposals)...
I was hoping to buy the bread already made ... a frozen exported version.
If I get around to diving into sour dough bread making, I'll certainly try this recipe and let you know how it goes 🙏
Cheese with emulsifiers
We makes the good cheeeezes!
Chedder👌🏻.
Some places call it “government cheese” on their menus and honestly it’s fitting 😂
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My sister still buys it, and it says cheddar on the ingredients. But that seems like a stretch. A really, really long stretch.
Idk what to eat in this fucking country anymore. A big egg producer just got exposed for feeding their chicken soy and grains when their boxes are labeled pasture raised. I’ve been paying 3x the cost for eggs and the cheaper eggs actually had less linoleic acid in it. Fuck the state and fuck anyone who supports it 🖕
Goyslop lol
I heard that article was kinda misleading and that their main eggs are actually better than most! If you’re talking about vital farms, they had a specific line or supplier that had that bad feed or something
I went down the same rabbit hole cuz that’s what I used to buy too
get some chickens!
I know not realistic everywhere but quail are easy even in an apartment (I think... don't know why not). Tiny eggs but you'd have control over what you feed them.
Rabbits as well. Not the tastiest meat, but you don't feel quite as dependent on a horrible system.
Man I work a full time job and barely have time for myself I’m not trying to get a part time job
Chicken take 5 minutes 2x per day
It’s true getting it setup is a lot of work, keeping them safe is as well
I always ask myself at what point is living in the US just not worth it anymore. The air, food, people, education, media is all so toxic. I wanna have kids some day and I just can’t imagine raising them here.
It’s definitely my full time job trying to detox the fam 🥲🥴 very few places to run
Ooooh... Love me some quail... Not sure if my landlord (or HOA) would allow tho!
https://substack.com/home/post/p-185137624
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The fall of the American empire
I just found a local egg guy... $12 a dozen, but at least I know the guy who's selling them cares as much about the eggs as me .
Love the unmarked cartons on the counter 😁
#eggstr
#local

The place I get raw milk from also sells unwashed farm eggs and I love them. But this is the only store I've seen within driving distance that sells things like that. I'm a regular in the hopes that they don't go out of business.
Wish my raw milk farm sold unwashed eggs
This farmer is a former marine... He has stragized and organized to shield himself from the corrupt state government officials that would rather see developments ($$$) than farm land.
He's expanding... And I'm a loyal customer and mouthpiece for as long as he stays true to his roots.
[Coastal pastures farm]. 🔥
Really feels like a food desert.
But when I went to Mumbai I realized it could be much worse.. a future that vegans and fake meat producers are trying to lead us toward. At least beef is still legal here. I could barely find anything there that didn't give me food poisoning.
Beef is illegal there? I guess I shouldn't be surprised. What about other meat? Chicken? Lamb?
I had Claude do a huge research report about it. It's illegal to slaughter cows in all but 5 states. They use legislature and mob violence to shut cattle farmers down or drive them out. Kerela I believe consumes 50% of all the beef in India. People have gone to prison for beef possession in Gujarat. I think one of the ironic findings was that India is still a major exporter of beef.
Most menus have chicken, lamb, and shrimp as "non-veg" options and half the restaurants are vegetarian only. But even those options are practically still vegetables imo. No pork to be seen either. And canola oil in everything all they way up to fine dining most likely. It's completely normalized and most people hold a taboo on beef and pork.
I had a Nepalese coworker a while back. He couldn't eat beef at home or the wife would kill him. He was a small guy but he could put back a lot of burgers or steak at work lunches though 🤣
Nice 😂👌
I did not expect the major export part
It's insane lmao. This is just the second result when you look it up.
https://www.exportimportdata.in/blogs/beef-export-from-india.aspx
India is a nation of slaves that serve global socialism.
Kinda makes sense bc they can make money on it... Just reveals the ulterior motives are not about animal welfare...
Cows are sacred to Hindus who make up almost 80% of the population of India. This not a new thing and has nothing to do with any ‘conspiracy’ to wean people off meat.
I don't remember mentioning any conspiracies
Maybe that bit was misplayed- Jay was talking about “ a future that vegans and fake meat producers are trying to lead us toward. “
Cows are sacred in Hinduism because they are the ideal food and source of materials. Not eating cows because they're sacred is a relatively recent psyop.
Most Hindus in India would probably call their own scriptures fake news with how many references there are to beef consumption.
I’m not sure coordinated psyops were underway 1500 years ago in India.🤷
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Here is the historically accepted progression:
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1. Early Vedic period (c. 1500–1000 BCE): cows were valued, not forbidden
In the earliest Vedic texts:
• Cows were economically central (milk, butter/ghee, dung for fuel, traction).
• Animal sacrifice did occur, and cattle may occasionally have been eaten, especially in ritual or elite contexts.
• Even then, cows were already symbolically important and associated with wealth and status.
Key point: cows were respected, but not absolutely protected.
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2. Later Vedic → Upanishadic period (c. 1000–500 BCE): shift toward non-violence
Major philosophical changes occurred:
• Growing emphasis on ahimsa (non-violence).
• Ritual sacrifice began to be questioned and symbolised rather than literal.
• Cows increasingly framed as providers rather than consumables.
This period marks the moral turning point.
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3. Influence of Jainism and Buddhism (c. 600–200 BCE)
Two major movements strongly reinforced cow protection:
• Jainism: radical non-violence; killing animals strictly prohibited.
• Buddhism: rejection of ritual animal sacrifice and emphasis on compassion.
Hindu thinkers responded by:
• Absorbing ahimsa into mainstream Hindu ethics.
• Distancing Hindu identity from sacrificial killing.
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4. Classical Hinduism (c. 200 BCE–500 CE): cow becomes sacred
By this period:
• Texts like the Dharmashastras explicitly condemn cow slaughter.
• The cow is framed as “Gau Mata” (Mother Cow).
• Killing a cow is equated with severe moral pollution or sin.
At the same time:
• Dairy (milk, curd, ghee) becomes central to ritual and diet.
• Protecting cows is linked to social order (dharma).
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5. Medieval period (c. 1000–1700 CE): identity marker
During Islamic rule in parts of India:
• Beef consumption by Muslim communities contrasted with Hindu taboos.
• Cow protection became a clear religious boundary marker.
• Hindu rulers often enacted bans on cow slaughter in their territories.
The taboo became socially absolute for most Hindu communities.
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6. Colonial & modern period (1700s–present): politicisation
Under British rule and later:
• Cow protection movements became tied to Hindu nationalism.
• Post-independence India enshrined cow protection in many state laws.
• Today, avoidance of beef is both a religious practice and a cultural-political symbol.
TLDR
4. Classical Hinduism (c. 200 BCE–500 CE): cow becomes sacred
By this period:
• Texts like the Dharmashastras explicitly condemn cow slaughter.
I have been to India several times and in my experience the biggest risk for food poisoning is hands / cutlery / water that salad is washed in.
One time my wife and I shared a roast chicken. She wise violently ill with food poisoning and I was fine.
I’ve eaten street food in Mumbai without issue but was violently ill after having a drink with ice in it from an airport bar in Khatmandu.
My rule of thumb is if it’s hot and my hands are clean I’ll be fine.
I'm just never going to India
That shit is so nasty.
It tastes good but it’s never worth it and it immediately fucks up my stomach
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That's all it's good for. I miss the cheese from Europe... french, dutch... 😔
Chemicals do taste better than real food, I’ll give you that.
The cheese is a lot less important than the peanut butter you choose to put on there.
I like a good roasted somewhat chunky option myself.
Certified burger expert here.
You are dead wrong.
Cheddar ftw.
No, the best meat processing and dishes => Turkey.
The best and most cheese varieties => Turkey (not France or Switzerland).
It might be that some people find plastic cheese full of microplastics tasty, but Turks even make the best cheeseburgers. That's no big deal for the Turks. If you only knew what else they can do with meat.
Cannot agree.
The best burgers I’ve had have not been in 🇺🇸.
I know. More heresy.
Unless it's different in your part of the world, those orange squares contain as little cheese as is necessary to steal the word cheese?
We do have cheese squares in the fridge, but it's only used to get medication into the dog .😉
I didn't know mozzarella is american




