If I collect milk, churn and chill it to make butter, it is still a natural food that the body can leverage for nutrients. 🧈

If I take meat and char it over a fire, it is a still a natural food that the body can leverage for nutrients. 🥩

If I collect maple sap from a tree, and reduce it over heat to make syrup, it is still a natural food that the body can leverage for nutrients. 🍁

If I press juice out of sugar cane, and evaporate the moisture, it is still a natural food that the body can leverage for nutrients. ◻️

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Everything is natural in a broad sense.

We cannot escape Nature no matter how shitty our products may become

Is cane sugar any less natural than maple syrup?

Hemlock is natural. Sugar is poison.

Fair point

People have been extracting sugar from cane for over 10k years, so I consider it a natural food for us

Then we are more aligned than I had originally thought.

Is there any value in considering glycemic index? Or complete ignore?

No.

Both glcemic load and indexes include foods with industrial additives, which undermine sugar metabolism (our primary metabolism).

Instead, divide food into natural, minimally processed foods vs foods with industrial additives (mainly seed oils).

Then stick with natural foods, reduce stress, repair thyroid+thiamine status, and gradually revitalize sugar metabolism.

Beyond ditching industrial foods, tending to your digestion, motility, and body temps are good ways for determing what your body considers low stress, high energy.

Folks in the Ray Peat space have done alot of work finding themes that seem to agree with many.

What is non-PUFA seafood?

Mostly shellfish, sir.

Many in the Ray Peat space hold the view that fish oil bad.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55262508-fishy-business

Do peaters have thoughts on Cod Liver Oil? I’m definitely in the #peat space but I haven’t seen anyone talk about it before.

Perfect. I already do the natural food part, but learning about sugar is very interesting. Thank you for the content.

Accurate 💹

The word "gradually" cannot be understated here though, especially for most women.

Maybe because maple syrup is scarce, sugar cane is not, few understand LoL

Few. 😂

This logic is quite frankly regarded. If I take Erythroxylum coca and process it…

Zero additives = natural, nutrient leveraged goodness

I think it's sort of a category error to just say a particular food is healthy.

All foods have different nutrient profiles and whether they are healthy to consume depends on whether your body has enough use for the nutrients to offset the costs of metabolizing it.

My understanding of these two products is that maple syrup has a broader nutrient profile, in terms of minerals and complex organic molecules, which make it more useful to our bodies.

Moderation

Yes! And sometimes the more “processed” version of the food is healthier and more digestible.

Exhibit A: white rice vs brown rice

Exhibit B: Soaked and fermented wheat in sourdough vs the whole wheat berry

It’s all about nuance!