How does one get more followers on Nostr?
Looking at accs with 10,000+ and wondering how they did it.
Genuinely curious #asknostr
Discussion
They gave value
And got hit by bots
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I'm sure many are bots.
That would explain some of the low engagement ratios. Npub posts to 10k+ audience gets <10 reactions. It's all fake?
I'm just guessing based on the issue with bots and spam on Nostr. I don't know for sure or if it's even possible to have accurate data one way or the other. My instinct is that we could estimate pretty well based on some metrics, but I don't know what they are. Definitely not my knowledge area.
I should say I'm sure many are, but I have no clue what percentage 'many' means. It could be a small number. But I suspect it's far easier to pump follow numbers using bots on Nostr than any other platform.
They are on the primal recommended list ๐
I heard this meme but is it for real do you think?
I do yeah. How would it not? Being in the default list will inherently give you more follows vs someone who isn't.
Look at anyone on that list on nostr.band vs npub.world, and compare it to a user who isn't. The primal default user will drop down to well under half the users, while those not on the list will drop by 10-25%.
Primal default are more likely to have bot followers, and follows that looked at primal once then uninstalled. npub.world removes the bots and users who have no activity. That 10k+ users turns into 5k.
Great pickup thanks. Yours and semisols note would both point to large follower counts being junky. Prefer high engagement to high counts IMO.
This thread is e.g. awesome
This. Ignore follow counts, pay attention to engagement ๐
Follows are a legacy metric that doesn't mean anything in Nostr, but clients won't remove it because inflooencers need it to justify their sponsorships, and the clients are unlikely to fix it because they need to have the illusion of higher user numbers to get more funding.
Anyone that's default in primal will be much the same. For users not on the default primal list there will be a drop as well, but it won't be the majority of their follows.
It's absolutely real
Things I wonder ๐ญ about
Engage and build. People are more likely to follow you when they know youโre a real person, nontoxic, and productive. Many with 10โs of thousands of followers were super early and on client auto-follows and bulk lists.
Aiming for this
Itโs not a whole lot different than being at a craft fair.
Donโt just show up and hang out, bring something tangible to the event.
Help others out, chat it up with fellow craftspeople, ie people that are making stuff.
Give them suggestions, offer to help with your particular skills. There are so many talented people here with varied skills and specialties.
Meet them in real life, too, if possible. Nostr isnโt a secret society and you donโt need to be a millionaire to be welcomed at a meetup.
Need more Nostr in real life
Bring something awesome to the table. Find a creative niche. Contribute. Donโt worry about how many followers you have.
I started making roll-up holders for pens & gadgets and put โem on #penroll
Now Iโm making the Nostr Watch.
#nostrwatch
Followers are a misnomer on Nostr. Just participate and have fun and engage with people. If youโre providing value. People will spread your stuff, too.
You can never really know what your follower numbers are here. Itโs not like centralized social media.
Engage with others, genuinely and often. Zaps help, reposts help. Posting into the void without engaging won't get you anywhere, gotta engage.
I assume they were early adopters or talk about polular topjcs. Personally I just engage and find joy in the smaller interactions, and then if people enjoy what I post they follow me on their own accord.
Talk to people under their own notes. People won't come to you.
Top follower accounts: influencooors / people that are friends with top follower accounts and get boosted by them constantly / genuinely great people that actually deserve the massive following.
High follower accounts: Very, very active with a fair degree of help from big account boosts.
Mid follower accounts: Active and engaging with many others, often more quality content than top and high follower counts but post less often and have few big accounts that boost them, if any at all.
Low follower accounts: new here and/or possibly relay ignorance.
Bottom follower accounts: new here or no engaging with other people and not understanding there's no algorithm / Malicious Bots
But as to your actual question, seems to me the magic formula is:
โ post very often, even to the degree that most posts aren't really of high quality.
โ get boosted by top accounts (the hardest to do if you're not buddies with them, but the most effective way to get followers)
โ engage with a loooot of people
โ hashtags could help but at this point only modestly
I came to this conclusion when I noticed my follower account would not rise for shit when I posted unfrequently, even though I put much work into every post I did make. My longform article for example didn't do much for followers but more frequent lower quality posts did. Unfortunate but it is what it is.
Oh yeah and I forgot, when you do make quality posts make sure to always boost them yourself like 5 hours later so people in different timezones also get a chance to see them!
And as your follower count rises, return to those posts (I bookmark mine for easy access) and boost them again! Best of luck fren
Great insight! Thanks for sharing. By your definitions I believe Iโm a low follower account so Iโll start โfollowingโ your advice now. Pun intended.
Inactive npubs. Many were recommended devs to follow in onboarding or auto followed. I think at some point someone put me into some onboarding recommended people to follow .
Apps like Primal were adding like 200 people to peopleโs follow list when creating an account. Not sure if theyโre still doing that.
IDK. i was up over 1k now I'm at 350ish. but it goes up and down for no reason that i can fathom so i stopped looking at it. ๐คฃ
The " followers" numbers are pretty broken and just because it shows that number doesnt mean thats what they have at all. So on the grand scheme of things that numbers pretty irrelevant
I mean look at my " follower" count it say i got like 20k something but i assure you, if i really had that amount of REAL followers i should have way more engagement on posts i make which i really dont. Its a small subset of the same individuals i see that interact back with my posts, and im ok with that.
Post as often as possible for as long as possible. Helps if you have good takes, not shit ones
With just a few lines of code, you can create thousands of bots that will follow you. ๐
I think its important to put things in perspective. Look at the largest/most popular accounts on NOSTR (Odell, Hodl etc) and look at their average engagements on a post.
Often its dozens of comments, handful of zaps and reshares - that's a more realistic judge of their followers vs a follower account.
This post of yours is doing comparable numbers to some of the largest accounts on here.
When I joined there were a list of people to follow; many were recognizable names, so naturally I chose to follow to see what theyโre posting. Iโm sure many like me were fed the same list upon onboarding which leads to huge numbers for those folks.