No bride stealing allowed.

Abductor shall be stripped of any clerical rank and excommunicated and he has to pay her monetary damages.

Only after all of that is decided and she is no longer under his control, may she marry him, if she wants.

https://www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/trent/twenty-fourth-session.htm

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You can’t take away my war brides.

Wait a moment! Was REAL bride stealing a real German tradition at some point in the past?😐

Yes, of course.

We still have the tradition that the best man "steals" the bride from the wedding and "hides" her in a different location, and then the groom has to go find her and pays the bill when he arrives.

The tradition has three aspects:

1) It reminds the groom that his new wife is valuable and that he needs to watch out for her safety.

2) It protected the bride from the "ius primae noctis". In this variation, the best man is doing the groom a favor, by hiding his wife from the nobility.

3) It's a historic relic, reminding us of theft-marriage and Beutefrau (war brides).

Ah yes... Witnessed that at an Austrian wedding recently. Never heard of it before but fun was had!

Wild.

First time, I was just like, "Hey where did the bride go?"

Oh, she's been stolen.

Find it funny, that you seem surprised about all this. Bride-stealing is a common, universal habit. 🤷‍♀️

I guess that's why so many women seem to enjoy painful, degrading sex. Some sort of evolutionary artifact.

Can't get off unless they're terrified and suffering.

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Well, it's so common, now. Like they've had their mental wires crossed, or something.

And plenty of dudes still have trouble figuring why so many women dislike men nowadays. 😮‍💨

GIRLS WILL BE STOLEN AND THEY WILL LIKE IT

If this is a joke it's a very bizarre one. 👀🤨

I don’t joke ☠️

Women don't like being stolen, they like pretending to be stolen.

The difference being that they get to choose the thief.

That's an important difference, I think.

I agree.

It's the women requesting the abuse, Gary. 🤷‍♀️

If men aren't scary enough by their mere presence because they're too egalitarian, women start demanding they act like a psycho, to even things out again.

Very true, women are a little scary sometimes in how they want to be treated lol

People are. All genders, no matter how many there are.

People nuts, fr.

I think White girls are the most degenerate group tbh. It's like, either they have something weird going on, or the idea of sex repulses them altogether, and there's no in between.

Not good to generalize

Generalizations are literally how all language works. Cope and seethe.

The language doesn’t make the generalization. I disagree with that. For example, I’ll make this generalization. All people that make generalizations about a certain race and gender are asshats. 😊

Did you know that all niggers commit crimes?

I don't know what your beef is, man. 😑

Speaking for an entire category is arrogant and dangerous. Even if you are in that category.

I know what you meant. I should've clarified a bit more. I was suggesting that this sort of behavior has a tendency to generate mixed feelings among both genders. Obviously, this is not the case for everyone though.

Yeah, must create such a weird dynamic.

I'm not into that shit. I'm got 99 problems and a BDSM-fetish ain't one.

Yup. Alotta women like a man who knows how to take control. The whole BDSM fetish makes me very uncomfortable, tbh.

Sure a lot of men do too. I would be curious on the percentage of each that prefers dominant role. Likewise the submissive role. Maybe i can get government money to do a study? 🤔

My theory is that it's a way for them to emotionally cope with men who are otherwise too unmanly. He has to reassert himself in the bedroom, or something.

So, if the only place where he's leading is the bedroom, then he has to be almost ridiculously dominant.

Personally, I think alot of men of the past two generations have become overly concerned with appeasing everyone. This has led to alot of them becoming very effeminate in some ways. Many seem to have forgotten or are scared to be assertive.

You can be simultaneously assertive and respectful. I'm not sure many understand that as well as they think.

You are so gay it's actually ridiculous.

🤣🍿 no.

You have to be a bot.

What is your infatuation with calling everyone less annoying than you a bot? Are you retarded or something?

It’s Gary. He likes talking to stuff. Hello pants.

As far as I know, we Iranians have never had such an tradision. Yes, there have always been girls who were forced to marry, for example because the girl's family forced her to marry or the boy's family was rich and powerful, but it never had a tradition that someone goes and steals a girl from somewhere and marries her.

You never had war brides and concubines? 🤔 Doubt.

Such a tradition did not exist among Iranians themselves. For example, a village with an adjacent village, or a city with an adjacent city. But I know that at one time in history it was normal to have a slave girl from other countries.

Probably if you looked into every culture you would see this in some variant long long ago. Dowries for example.

Yeah, everyone did it. Some still do.

Seems to be most popular among poorer men because they have so little to offer.

I don't understand the connection between dowry and bride stealing🤔

If you raped or abducted a woman, you could be ordered to pay the bride price (bridal-dowry) as damages.

And men who can't afford the price would just steal a woman or pay a lesser sum to a trafficker.