nostr usage is stronger than bears would have you believe
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I use it so it makes me happy
Haters be hating. I said it before, I'll use Nostr to write my grocery list and I'll still be using it.
What website is this?
Thank you very much!
always has been
Nostr is dead.
Long live Nostr.
I’ve just made the switch from X. I can only handle so much political drama and bitcoin twitter feels dead!
Same - Checked in on X yesterday and got nothing out of it.
You’ve made the right choice, it’s hot chocolate, new york wordle and a gentle sat stack here. Very civilised
Followed 🫡 welcome to nostr
Welcome Tom
Welcome to Zion
Yo thanks for the warm welcome! Long time fan and listener nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqprpmhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet5hgfg9w 🤝
You can sync all of your tweets to nostr with nostr:nprofile1qqspn9dw3vmdz9enmjsx3m3eklpnvjz2hdtk54hjd7v3hve3x24808sprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnrdakjuct4qy08wumn8ghj7un9d3shjuewd3skuep0wdcxzarfv9hx7um5wfssgfkagh
Same! Just recently deleted x and moved here. Welcome to the other side ⚡️
Your next step will most likely be to delete it
Oh it’s gone! The decision was made and I’m sticking with it haha.
Just need a private AI now. Giving nostr:nprofile1qqs8msutuusu385l6wpdzf2473d2zlh750yfayfseqwryr6mfazqvmgpy9mhxue69uhkummnw3ez6un9d3shjtn5v4uxzumgv4jxwefw0puh5tcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhs5hwf4a a test run for the month as a replacement for Grok
Me too brother . Welcome aboard 🫡
Well done and welcome, Tom! You do look like more of a Nostrich than an X guy. See you around.
Same feeling. Less noise, fewer incentives to perform, more room to actually think.
The content is becoming more diversified, which leads to more interest.
Nostr has freedom of speech, a competitive edge over anything else.
New users retention. Literally all gone within a few days?
Probably too addicted to their algorithm feeding them bullshit to get distracted.
Nostr is precisely the opposite, some people you follow, scroll a little and you have seen it all; back to real life.
Seems like the funnel may need some work. What are the main channels people come in to Nostr from? Would love to take a look at copy and experience the funnels as a brand new user creating an npub.
A lot of it is starting to be found though Internet searches. People just read the page, but don't login (or get an account).
So like nostr.com and nostr.org?
https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqs82vcp6z0lgjr03vee3qg89v07frqlxy65wgpp208ha67fs38txaqsr4w8v
Google "Laeserin". Used to return nothing.
It's a strange one.
Normal app
1st interaction e.g. app install = start date
Next interaction e.g. login = retained
Nostr network
Maybe lurking invisibly for years
1st note = start date
May continue lurking for years
No install or session tracking exists
If not posting notes, this chart shows as churned
There is likely some tuning that I need to do on that W0 calculation to filter some extremely low intent/low value pubkeys from the calculation.
So we just adjust the KPIs until they make us feel better?Or do we actually want to address the real issue declining retention?
From my pov, but im just a retarded user, we are already losing most new users before they even fully join.
That’s not a market problem. That’s a “we” problem.
If we care about longterm success we should focus less on reporting comfort and more on fixing the friction? 🤷♂️
Truth is uncomfortable but comfort never built anything meaningful…just my 21 sats i have no fu clue 🤷♂️💜🫂
“w/both” is the important metric in that top row. The bright numbers include junk.
I cannot believe this. An influencer would omit critical details to get engagement, and to keep followers in the echo chamber. How could this happen
Weird drop off 🧐
Also seems to be mirrored by the stats @ https://npub.world/stats
People all had New Year’s resolutions to stop social media? Even Nostr? 😅😭😂
That's the day relay.nostr.band went MIA.
Nostr.band is back up.
But everybody has removed it from their lists 😂
I think it would be strange though, if a stat site meant to replace nostr.band, and was released after it went down, also relied on it to be able to calculate accurate stats.
The stats site is different than people connected to their relay, though. I'd assume new stats collection would still want to use that info as a source. That was/is a popular one in many lists. Probably easier to monitor than 100 tiny relays.
From nostr:nprofile1qqspwwwexlwgcrrnwz4zwkze8rq3ncjug8mvgsd96dxx6wzs8ccndmcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszxrhwden5te0ve5kcar9wghxummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhx5etxvenjuenedyhsqqgrh0 the creator of the stats site in the OP
nostr:naddr1qqvxxmm4de6xjmn8946xsefdw4hxxmm4de6xzcnvv5q3jamnwvaz7tmswfjk66t4d5h8qunfd4skctnwv46z7q3qzuuajd7u3sx8xu92yav9jwxpr839cs0kc3q6t56vd5u9q033xmhsxpqqqp65w362y6k
Thanks, I'll read it when I sit down for the night.
Interesting. I have no clue what "smart relay selection" means. The site shows the top 50 relays in 10002s, but it doesn't say what (if any) part that has in the other data shown or give any indication of how many relays are actually being monitored. relay.nostr.band is #7 though. Relayable is listed in the top 12... still lots of education to do 😅
My main takeaway is that it is using it's own database of events(currently indexed: 812.09M events · Nov 6, 2020 – Jan 13, 2026), and continually gathering from other relays, which it obtains from users kind 10002 events.
I also noticed the mutiny wallet relay is in the top 50. I swear it's been two years since that closed shop. Could be unaware users, and likely some of the group who have left. No need to update your relays if you're not using Nostr anymore.
So - what's happening here is that it gets the full list of all pubkeys that we've seen, then fetches the most recently published 10002 event for each, then get's all the relay URLs from that (normalizing the URLs and throwing away complete trash along the way) and then counts.
Yes, there are a lot of pubkeys that have very old relays on their lists. There are also obviously some bot forms in there as well I'm guessing.
The relay was still not working as of yesterday when I checked. Is that back too?
Not sure, don't use it.
I haven't checked. I'd assume it's still down. But there's no way nostr dropped 60% of activity overnight, for no reason. ReplyGuy and the lovely porn bot of June didn't even do that. I think stats are just _really_ hard.
In my side chats about Nostr I have seen some comments on how slow it feels lately. I somewhat concur, my feed seems a lot slower, and I'm on a lot less too due to that.
we'll have to kill elon
Hmmm. I could be mistaken. But maybe it's a compiling problem of people posting and not being seen since its not going to the big relay that many popular clients look to for posts, so they quit or take hiatus since they think everything died.
That's actually really interesting (and good to know since I was worried that I was missing something).
Still here!! LFG!
There's too much nostr usage! More people need to touch grass...
1.5M notes /month >>> 10k to 20k active daily npubs ?
LFG 🚀
🤙🫂
Daily users is something I find fascinating
With a profile and follows, which is any normal person, just 2300 yday
We’re so bloody early!
Retention is not good.
1.3 million users added last month is wild
The bottom number is the actual number.
If someone has no followers and didn't finish setting up their account it's not a new user. Just someone making new accounts to inflate their follower count or new users who immediately gave up and left
That many people joining??? How’s that measured?
Onward
So 9k users last week. 🤔
I feel like for a new user getting here and seeing all the talk about user retention and seeing stats about how few people use Nostr could be contributing to user retention issues.
open source, verifiable data > "trust me bro" metrics
fk yeah! 💪🏽
Da bears 🐻
What does w/profile mean? What's one without profile?
No kind 0 event found, on the relays searched, but the nsec has been observed signing other events.
Hmmm, ok..I am not very techy but I think I get it. So... For instance if Bitchat automatically generates nsec/npub for new downloads (does it do that?)... And if there was a spike in downloads that could be such other events signed without Nostr profiles created (reflected in these charts)?
I don't actually know how Bitchat works.
A profile event (kind 0) is just a special kind of note. Like a kind 1 note, but with different tags. If an npub creates that note and signs it with their nsec, then they have a profile. Otherwise, not.
there is always talk about that *event* that will bring people to nostr... why after the recent "twitter algo killed CT" trend, people have not moved over here?
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So beautiful ❤️😍
I almost fall in love 💕😘