Been awfully quiet about what v30 means for freedom money if that’s your ideal outcome. Hard to be sovereign when it means you have to host and distribute CSAM.
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In fact he tried to mute the discussion. nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx is another influencer who’s sus. The influencers are part of the propaganda machine imho.
I definitely would have expected him to have more to say about the situation, but everything I’ve seem is vague and not directly addressing any claims or picking a side, which is odd because he has no problem speaking up about other stuff like Saylor’s opinion about dev funding
Agree. It is interesting to watch some of the other influencers like nostr:npub1cj8znuztfqkvq89pl8hceph0svvvqk0qay6nydgk9uyq7fhpfsgsqwrz4u, nostr:npub1rtlqca8r6auyaw5n5h3l5422dm4sry5dzfee4696fqe8s6qgudks7djtfs , nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc etc initially trying to mute the discussion at a minimum saying it’s silly or stupid or being completely quiet about it. And of course Adam beck has huge conflict of interest. Etc.
i have spoken about this an exhausting amount
you literally responded to my post about this two days ago
Yeah you have made vague comments about the situation.
Working to bring about a third option at some point in the future (which I support) is not the same about speaking up about what is actively happening now.
Saying you’re frustrated with both sides adds nothing to the conversation.
It actually adds to the discussion. It shows there is third side (most of the people) who think both sides of this debate are stupid.
Your desire to see everyone clearly aligned with one of two sides shows your brain damage from too much exposure to modern US politics.
Brother….. just say you haven’t been paying attention and therefore don’t have strong opinions on the matter.
There are only 2 sides. Side 1 supports what core is doing. Side 2 does not support what core is doing. It’s not rocket science. You can make a decision without hitching yourself to knots.
I don’t have a “desire” to see everyone pick a side. Only those whose opinions matter and can make a difference.
I have been paying too much attention .. Hours of podcasts and discussions here ...
I will probably just run core 29 just to humble those blue haired core devs.
But that's it. Apart from this signaling it does not matter what mempool policy I or anybody else (except mining pools, which are like 10 entities) runs on their node.
100kB OP_RETURN is consensus.
And it does not even make sense to use it for spam since ordinals use witness data which is cheaper and has no limit (whole block can be 1 jpeg)
Running v29 forever is not a solution
Hosting and distributing 100kb of contiguous CSAM blobs is a real and obvious risk
Running a node will become a liability
So much for sovereign money and not trusting third parties
Did you see this exchange?
Yes. I actually agree with his point.
He is not sus. Just the discussion does not make sense.
Mem pool policy does not in reality prevent sb from uploading whatever he wants to OP_RETURN. That is the fact. If I wanted to add 100kB csam there, I could do it now.
It does not really matter what default value is in core 30 config, because miners are running custom configs anyway (like sub sat per vbyte fees).
But you will not believe me, because you have some influencers telling you this is extremely important. It is not. It is of average importance at most.
If it doesn’t matter, why change it? The „they are already doing it, so we’ll just make it easier“ argument ….But in reality, it does matter.
I don't want to be unnecessarily disrespectful but this discussion has metastasized way out of proportion.
Anyone can mine 100kB OP_RETIRN currently. Spammers are mining 4MB jpegs in witness data with witness discount.
Apart from Luke's convoluted logic on "misinterpretation of data" there is no difference between csam in OP_RETURN or OP_FALSE (ordinals).
What's this stupid obsession with CSAM?
You mean the very obvious risk that will make it a legal and moral liability to run a node?
Some of us would like to be sovereign without risking going to jail.
It won't though. People are just using that as a weak excuse.
That’s wishful thinking
Is it illegal to run a Tor node? Because that's where all the CSAM is.
One can be antispam and pro do nothing
Yes, that’s the knots side
And everyone who is just not going to run core 30. I'm not going to run knots or upgrade core.