I'm sure this issue will be fixed in NOSTR clients in no time. Joining a federated network like fediverse where the server owns your identity does not seem like something I really want to do.
You should consider fediverse. You can subscribe to all posts by a person so all posts go to notifications. + Much more mature and more control. (Pleroma+Soapbox servers especially) https://jointhefedi.com/ and you can still connect with nostr users #[6]
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You don't seem to understand Nostr and censorship, because relays do exactly the same. And Nostr is censoring already, if anything will be fixed in no time it will be Nostr segregating itself same way fediverse has. We had a lot of talk about it here. The point is you find suitable server. Poast, is fine freespeechextremist too and there are many more. I have been using it 3 years while current Nostr larpers stayed on Twitter during biggest censorship era. What does it say about them? People censor themselves. You can't fix it with protocol. Nostr is nothing new nor breaktroough and not at all "censorship-resistant" as it falsely advertises. Many such examples.
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That isn't right, with nostr you do own your identity but relays can block you. On the fediverse you loose your account if an admin wants that. I operate both BTW
Exactly what I meant - on NOSTR your key = your identity and no admin is able to take it away from you. Some relays might block you, they might even create a shared blacklist, but they can't take down my account completely and eliminate my audience though.
Seen how fast he was on the insults?
It's about redefining censorship.
I have no claim that any client or relay must show my posts.
But if I run my own relay, using an open-source client, nobody can censor me and prevent people who are interested from subscribing to my relay.
Essentially, they want to claim they have a right that everybody must relay and receive their notes, if not it's censorship.
How new users know you even exist you fucking collosal moron! They won't because you are CENSORED you fucktard!
No we don't claim that. Retard. You just lied you filthy bolshevik scum. We calim if everyone doesn't have acces to relays that are not for faggots like you and those relays are not even known because developers, relay owners collude, but there are preselected ONLY those that do censor ,because they are as gay as you, that is censorship.
KYS now.
LOL. You are the Bolshevik, because you think you have a right that everybody listens to you.
It’s your fucking responsibility to build you network. If you do that nobody can censor you.
And that’s the difference to social media and fediverse, where you can be actually censored, by them intervening between you and people that actually want to listen.
Although with that attitude I can’t imagine it’s many.
And relays do not intervene? right ? mongoloid
USE BLOCK YOU MENTAL! NO ONE IS FORCING YOU!
>I am Twitter user my arguments are so "dissident"
That is irrelevant example for censorship. Same applies to fediverse. Relevant is that new people will not be able to find you.
It’s always the same with the people claiming „Nostr isn’t innovative and not censorship“ resistant.
They need to redefine censorship from well, censorship to „if I cannot force everybody to listen, it’s censorship“
Another Nostr liberal trnny faggot. 
>anti-German Untermensch Ignores FORCED Nostr blocklists, FORCED default relays, FORCED client defaults, relays actually censoring
>Calls people objecting censorship "wanting to force everybody to listen"
>redefines censorship and blames others for it
It’s always the same with you liberals. Same way you were forcing people to masking, testing and vaxxing
You are fucking degenerate perverts. And you all need to hang.
What a clown take. Run your own relay and noone can censor you. If people sign up to it, e.g. decide to listen to you, is a whole different story.
Btw, how do you think the stuff you named is forced? Most clients are FOSS.
PS: its always a good choice to enter a conversation with a solid insult, you are loved among your peers aren’t you?
Always, when it comes to mentally ill liberal twitter faggots
KYS moron
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Educate your grandma then. You are such a clown. 🎉😂 The best part on nostr is, you are not forced to use it. Use something else if you don’t like it. As its FOSS you can even fork it and build your better version. But I doubt you can do more then complain and whine about stuff you clearly do not understand how it works.
KYS Covidiot.
😂I am unvaccinated, an enemy of the people according to my government and our mainstream media. But sure, because I understand how nostr technically works, I am a Covidiot. Go on, embarrass yourself even more. 😂
Not being vaxxed does not necessarily rules out being covidiot.
You are lying, prove it. I don't believe you since those were lame liberal fallacies you shitted.
Are people in prison for your opinions? No. So you clearly aren't. You clearly consume "alt" MSM. Same diagnosis. You are delusional useful idiot adopting WEF shitcoin. So you didn't pass another IQ test even is you weren't vaxxed.
WEF shitcoin is eThErEuM. It is literally controlled by stake, and all decisions are made by child porn enjoyoor ViTaLik and his handlers.
All crypto is, except the one that's actually banned. Monero. Every aspect of relies on fiat money and is centralized. From miners, trough "consensus" to market shorts. You support GreatReset global communist currency for global citizen. It's hegelian dialectic. Who controls global money controls entire word.
I don't think that Monero is banned anywhere, only maybe delisted from a few centralized shitcoin casinos in a couple of countries.
Bitcon miner production is centralised ✅ Bitcoin follows the Pareto principle with majority owned by a small group of people ✅ Bitcoin block production is centralized between a few mining pools ✅ Bitcoin is captured ❌
Even though all of the above facts are true, Bitcoin still works as intended and is not meaningfully controlled by anyone. WEF can't print bitcoins, WEF can't prevent anyone technically from using bitcoin, WEF can't manipulate bitcoins price long term, WEF can't change bitcoin code that is run by all the full nodes worldwide.
"Who controls global money controls entire word." Exactly, until people ditch fiat currencies the world will be controlled by the banksters. Bitcoin is the only way out of this that has an actual chance of working.
Nobody knows if Monero is centralized or how many coins exist. It’s the ultimate “trust me bro” coin.
Your beliefs do not correspond to reality. Like most on "alt" scene you are only scratching surface. You know terms NWO and WEF but you do not understand their agenda at all. Hope those documentaries help you.
Yes, on this image it clearly states that trading on centralized exchanges is banned. However, transacting in those shitcoins is still legal everywhere.
I already watched the first 3 parts of the docu you sent, some things I do agree with. Will definitely continue watching. I also think that you have some misconceptions, especially when it comes to money and mainly BTC. I always try to look at things objectively and the reality of the situation is that not a single human being on earth is able to corrupt Bitcoins supply schedule. Which is the only way it can be meaningfully corrupted (if you exclude apocalyptic scenarios, but even than BTC failing is not guaranteed).
🤣Please show me where I expressed any political, religous or otherwise believes. All I did was telling you how it is technically impossible to censor anyone from using the nostr protocol. Not my fault your cerebral capacity is to small to process the info.
You can tell yourself whatever lies you want cretin. You liberals ignore reality. You lied again. "Censor anyone from using the nostr protocol" is not the same as being censored on Nostr network you are demoralized garbage. You expressed demoralization, that means liberal. Go vote Trump, Desantis or something you liberals do.... Stop spamming me with blabber.
That could become a problem, however most clients are opensource and I am sure if this problem gets too large you would have people hosting their own client instances without any of the things you mentioned. I definitely don't think it's a deal breaker which makes NOSTR protocol completely useless.
I didn't say it's useless. Just that it's not better than fedi that has been here for longer came trough fire and you know what to expect there. It's solid.
Yes people are already and will be hosting their own client. That most are opensource is meaningless here. You are talking about miniscule percantage of people same is valid for fedi. This is not what most users will do, for same reason most users stay on heavily censored instances like mastodont.socialists or stayed on censored Twitter for 3 years - they are liberals it's in their nature that they OBEY degenerate majority and popular opinion, they are incapable ot thinking, and thus censor themselves by their own idiocy. Target of censorship is always this stupid majority weaponized as a rabid herd of bullies to supress minority they are not victims. They are collaborators. It's mental illness. The protocol is completely useless as a solution to censorship.
I haven't made any claims about censorship resistance, have I? Nonetheless NOSTR is censorship resistant in a sense that you are not locked in into a single relay. However, the main feature of NOSTR is that you actually own your identity (public key) and hence your key = your followers (same as in BTC your key = your coins). So even if 90% of all relays blacklist you, your followers still can find your content using the same pub key on the left over relays that haven't.
On fedi you are not locked into a single server, it federates. Same. All instances can censor your own server here all relays can censor your relay rendering your identity useless and you need to make new one. Exactly the same. You are making unfair comparisons.
It’s not the same at all, censorship is much worse on fedi.
No it's not. It's just your perception of new hopium. You can make inductive experiemnt. If entire fediverse was a Nostr suddenly what would happen in under a week? The liberals would simple not follow certain relays same as they don't bother to change server. SAME. Censorship is social behavioral problem not, some protocol design. Nostrtards could leave Twitter years ago they didn't they love censorship. Period.
did you know bot is a guy? I didn't, he argues like a bitch, so she's a bitch.
No bot, you fucking retard, nostr is infinitely censorable. Everything depends on the data silos in relays. There is absolutely no guarantee of anything. "oh hurr we can just run our own relays" HEY FUCKBAIT THE RELAYS OWN YOUR FOLLOWERS TOO, NOSTR NOMADIC IDENTITY IS KILL
bot doesn't like the fediverse because no one wants to talk to her because she's a glow in the dark CIA pedophile nigger kike.
That's not to say that I hate nostr, because it certainly offers much more flexibility in its sparseness, than ActivityPub does. But I don't want people thinking they've found a new oasis of infinite freedom of speech, because that is most certainly not the case.
LMAO not reading all that but stay seething freak.
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I actually assume everyone looking like girl is infact a guy on internet until proven otherwise LOL.
Nostr doesn’t guarantee that everyone sees your posts, that isn’t the point. The point is that two ppl can talk to each other without a single point of failure.
From my understanding on fediverse you have multiple separate identities on each server that you decide to join and they all are controlled by the respective server admin. So your followers on one server are not able to follow you on the other using the same credentials. Which means your followers are only yours as long as a server admin allows you to have them. This in my mind is an enormous negative feature of the protocol, which overrides any positive ones.
Yes "identity" is per server.
>So your followers on one server are not able to follow you on the other using the same credentials.
You misunderstand. Of course they do. You can talk to any server. This part is called federation. Admins can defederate other instances or individual users though. Well the point here is that you find suitable server. On Nostr relays can do the SAME and you must equaly find suitable relays. So the relays are instances. There is no fundamental difference. People not using free speech relays won't be able to find you. This will be majority of users who use defaults. The users using default normie relays will not touch free speech relays. What's the difference? Nothing. And this will yet go further as blocklists Nostr devs and relay operators discuss will be implemented. The free speech portion of Nostr will be one digit % and liberals create their Berlin communist wall again. You can't stop that with any protocol. We can only argue nostr makes it slightly easier as on fedi you need to create new identiry here you just switch relay, if there is such.
From a fedi admin friend:
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Interesting, I agree that the probability of the majority of users using potentially heavily censored default relays is high. However, I think that we both do agree that NOSTR does have a clear advantage over fediverse by allowing users to completely own their identities? Which in turn makes circumventing relay/server censorship way easier and does not require users to start over completely from scratch if they get banned. That seals the deal for me personally.
If you have valuable content, people will try to find you. And certainly free minded people will continue to run uncensored aggregator relays.
Which btw you can do on your own relay. Just publish to every relay that you can find.
LMAO imagine recommending poast, one of the most censorship heavy instances that also harbours pedophiles.
sure 🤡 mastodont.socialists is a way to go :retard:
>Most
prove it, which statistics are you comming from? Seen nothing from you just bla bla bla crying
>Harbor pedophiles
aka don't spy on users don't do background checks, don't dox users and oh actually defederate pedophiles
liar
Give us your recommended list let's take a look
Just check undu’s media tab, he’s a former admin. And yes, poast literally harboured a convicted chomo.
You still repeat convicted and you gave no proof. Undu this undu that. Is that all you got? Imagine how many people you don't know and deal with regularly are pedos. So I guess kill them already all. So are you against jannies or not you seem to have schizophrenia. Where is that amazing list of yours again? Waiting
If I don't find any censorship there or pedos I will recommend it.
The proof is that g117ch was doxed along with this sex offender registry information. It shouldn’t be difficult to find more info about that.
@bot I recommend the mute button. That dude is not here for a logical debate, he’s just playing chicken on the chessboard.
I know, he’s from poast (a lolicon pedophile instance on the fediverse) and they’re all like this. I don’t mute or block ppl tho, but I agree it’s a waste of time.
I only mute on three conditions:
1. I have proof they knowingly lied.
2. They repeatedly refuse to stick to logic.
3. Repeated use of insults instead of arguments.
You redefined censorship and lied, then accused me of redefining it. 🤡 You wouldn't pass 1st semester of logic you manipulative degenerate. Sounds like you should block yourself. I suggest suicide.
You are demoralized as fuck
Who doxxed him? You? You still have burden of proof. I will not do you job faggot.