LeBron turns 41 this month. How is he still able to play like this?
https://video.nostr.build/42d9f42833586e623294bfbc5117d9525a0b786a8ed8227baaa7a4652650d106.mp4
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Some people are just built better. Like Alex Ovechkin in the NHL, still playing at 40. Or Gordie Howe who played until he was 52 WTF
41 isnāt *that* old, especially if youāve maintened peak physical health the whole time. His biological age is probably younger.
He's an absolute unit though. No other man has played more seasons in the NBA than him. Some played to an older age, but not many.
Itās not that easy to maintain at his age. The greatest NBA players in history were terrible by this age if they even played this long. Most were retired before 40.
Built different
His stats still suck. He sucks. Hes a flop.
Respect the king š«µ
Dont disrespect the real basketball KING people still fight for his sneakers hahaa
Tell me where did LeBron hurt you š
You wont watch the video. Because people are wrong about his whole career when you dig in it.
Do you watch basketball right now?
No. Just watch the comparison. Basketball got weak. And after i learned about Tim Donaghy years years back i stopped watching
āBasketball got weak todayā
Basketball back then: š
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You can say what you want, but 90 through 98 was top Prime for NBA Lebron sucks bro.
Youāre just a hater plain and simple. LeBron dominates Jordan in all statistical categories. The league has more skilled players than any era before. He has more game winners, buzzer beaters, points scored in the clutch. He is more skilled in all aspects of the game. Better at 3s, passing, blocks you name it. People ignore so many things about the 90s because of nostalgia. They canāt get past their biases. The 3 point line was shorter for the Jordan era and he was still statistically worse at 3s than LeBron lmfao. Also itās easier to play defense during the Jordan era because you can use your arm to hold players. Canāt do that anymore. So the defensive stats that LeBron has which are better than Jordan is proof that he was even better as a defender. But old heads are stubborn and hate that this era gets to experience better basketball.
Ok yup im just a hater. Hahaha sure.
Watch the video before talking bro Lebron sucks hahahaha
Saying LeBron sucks is just retarded and makes you lose credibility. No serious person actually thinks LeBron sucks bro š
I donāt even think Jordan is better than Kobe. If you placed Jordan in the NBA today, heād be like
Paul George or some shit lmao good but not top tier.
Everyone just likes to shit on the current era and glorify the good old days. Thatās why no one takes old heads seriously lol LeBron fans will do the same itās a cycle.
https://video.nostr.build/6701d86e2a3128bd2052a340835797dda2ac9fd1576ed61787df39b12534377c.mp4
You know how many times I watched that video. Because I love watching the reaction of little kids that say Jordan sucked, but they wear his sneakers, and they say, Lebron is the best. You know how many times I've watched reaction videos of kids having there hearts broken by stats and truth hahahaha š š š
This is called a projection. You said LeBron sucks. I didnāt say Jordan sucks. LeBron has better stats. You just ignore the ones that donāt support your views. The bulls couldnāt win without pippen. When the bulls lost to Jordan, pippen led the team to the eastern conference championship. Thatās not a good indication that Jordan was the most essential part of the team. Pipper got farther alone than Jordan did alone. Also his coach talked about pippen with more praise and esteem. Itās not even clear that Jordan was the best player on the bulls š¤£š¤£
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The cavs? Come on man.
Letās see some early 90s Knicks or late 80s Pistons
You have to look at the lowest common denominator. This time period was going through an expansion era. They added several new teams that were really bad in order to grow the league. The good teams beat up on the new teams that had no chance. The statistics show this too. Stats were inflated because of these new teams. Larry Bird and other legends have criticized this decision and commented on how it creates an inaccurate view of player talents. Also, our natural biases prevent us from seeing a clear big view picture. There are legends from the era before Jordan who said that they would destroy the bulls and that the league was easier. You canāt make this shit up. Friend sent me this hilarious interview a while back when I also used to be a LeBron hater š
https://video.nostr.build/82a9cf82630cf6de88218de54ff3b96d09e5da89b32f1a0a799cb895344924e8.mp4
Iām not a LeBron hater but heās top 10 in my book. As pure talent, heās top 2 or 3 no doubt.
I go by who I want on my team and thatās still MJ. In a decade it might be wembenyama
Why do you take Jordan over LeBron?
Not only Jordan. Iāll take Kobe, Shaq, Duncan over LeBron
Why do you hate lebron? š
What hate? All Iām saying is he aināt the goat. I gave you the most well rounded and most talented.
Iād rather have some others on my team. Maybe cuz Iām old idk
Why do you need others to recognize heās the best ever or weāre automatically haters
Not the best ever but Shaq? That guy had terrible longevity. He was fat and ass for a significant portion of his career. Couldnāt hit a free throw for his life either.
What was the last season you followed closely?
Shaq was the most dominant athlete in modern times.
The 90s was the time I watched sports heaviest.
You didnāt answer my question
I think the most dominant player is the one who dominates for the longest period of time. Some players have dominated for a few years. Think of Derrick Rose. He was dominant for like 3 years then had an injury and was never the same. Shaq dominated on the lakers but nowhere else really. Kobe dominated for much longer than Shaq. Duncan too. And LeBron has been the most dominant. No one has played at a high level for as long as LeBron. Most people just donāt like LeBron because they have preferences for other play styles or personalities.
I still watch highlights. I largely grew out of sports cause itās not that serious.
I have seen a lot of LeBron, itās absolutely absurd how heās built and how great he continues to be. But Derek Rose even in a few years proved to be great one.
Stephās longevity at the top is a marvel too. Longevity is a major notch but not as great as how good a a few years is. I canāt give it a number, itās not a science, everyone has their own formula for great(est/ness).
Shaq was dominant most of his career. You forget his time in Orlando.
I didnāt like LeBron running to different teams, then creating drama that one time. Not the type of attitude I wanted to see in the GOAT.
I donāt care about changing teams that much. These businesses are trying to make the most money possible out of the players so players should make the most they can while theyāre young.
The only thing I really hated was his broadcast of the decision. But heās even admitted later that he regrets doing that. And I think his personality is funny. He gets caught doing dumb stuff like doing troll face photobombs with his teammates š
Not my prototypical goat.
A literal killer, a gambler, an asshole. Like Jordan
I think Jordan punched his teammate in the face lol I donāt get why people celebrate that
I had to punch another boy on the playground once. He wanted a fight and he didnāt know how to fight.
Youāre nothing like Jordan stop š¤£
lol, I challenge you to a game of horse
How tall are you and how much do you weigh?
Wtf
What kind of horse were you thinking
Basketball horse
You weigh in for that?
I assess my odds of winning based on physical traits
Still not the horse I am thinking.
If youāre short then you got no chance š āāļø
Youāre going to some kind of tomahawk dunk something?
Youāre going to open with this?
This is me
And this is my reaction
What kind of horse rules let you do chase down blocks?
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Itās crazy
He probably follows nostr:nprofile1qqsp3yzapfwkyw4cr2vt4xx9s27474lj2pkxhqyfqh79n826pv3fkzqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wghxcctwvshshkuc7l's fitness regime, mine is just for aesthetics apparentlyš¤·š»āāļø.
Idk lol I workout for aesthetics too
That's my SOLE reason for working out, node and myself were debating it the other dayš¬š.
You do you. Itās not a debate. Grow up
I wasn't having a go! I was just pointing out that we were debating the issue the other day, the different reasons why people work out, which we wereš¤·š»āāļø.
Itās not a debate. If I say I train for a reason and you train for another. You make it sound like thereās a better reason for doing it (ie a debate). When you train for aesthetics, part of it (or most of it even) helps for longevity. Vice versa the other way around. The goal that you set in your mind is not inherently better than someone elseās. Not everything is a debate
I think everyone should have a baseline level of strength in order to protect your family. But for me thatās not enough I wanna be able to say that Iāve gotten close to my bodyās full genetic potential šŖ
This is interesting because I have similar goals while training for longevity
I started training like 10 years ago but I didnāt get significant results. That failure was like a stain in my mind that never went away. I donāt like the idea of giving up on something. So even though it would make me looked better, I want to also have the pride to say that I accomplished it even if it took me a long time. And I can share that lesson of never giving up with my future children. Itās a discipline thing for me with many other benefits.
Having discipline and showing that discipline to my children is definitely a big part of it. They notice everything.
For me, I see training as a way to be able to keep up with the children and being able to move and stay active as long as possible. Even though the aesthetics part is a nice bonus, itās not the main goal for me. Whatās interesting is that gaining lean mass is important for aesthetics as well as for longevity.
For me it is just fun to do. If I can make something more physical, more difficult I will. Effort is exhilarating.
This also. I agree with that as well. I guess the reason we do it for might be different. But itās relatively all the same in the end. Or very similar at least
Yeah theyāre all great benefits. Doing deadlifts and wrist curled were literally the only things that actually provided significant pain relief for my lower back and the tendinitis in my hands. Physical therapy, icing, splints, stretching didnāt work for me.
I did have some back pain 12 years ago. Leg day and training back fixed it. Everything else I tried failed
It sounds so obvious in hindsight doesnāt it? Like oh my back hurts because itās weak. Not because of sciatica or because my hamstrings are tight and need to be stretched to relieve tension or because the mattress isnāt firm enough. š
If you was training for size/aesthetics/genetic potential and you wasn't meeting your goals, providing you was putting in the work, and I've no reason to believe you wasn't. Almost certainly the reason why you didn't get there was because you wasn't eating enough. I can't stress that enough. You have to eat an absolutely insane amount of food to gain a significant amount of mass. My walking around weight is roughly 67kg, years ago, when I was really into it, I got up to 82kg, that took me about 3 years. The reason I stopped going the gym wasn't because I wasn't enjoying it, it was the staggering amount of food involved, it seemed like I was eating all day, every day. I've recently started going again, about 8 weeks ago and I'm enjoying it but I'm already fed up with the amount of food I'm having to eatš.
If your main goal is acquiring mass, why not use protein powder? I prefer to stay away from it but if you want mass, itās super cost efficient
It doesn't have the calories, someone of my size needs between 80-120g of protein to build muscle. I can get that with 2 pints of full fat milk and a 500g pot of Greek yoghurt, that along isn't enough to build size, your body needs lots of fats and carbs too, just to function day to day. That's even true of me, who spends the vast majority of the time lying on my couchš.
Itās roughly 140 calories for 35g of protein. People I know usually take 2 portions, on top of your calorie intake through food
There isnāt really anything unique in protein powder that you canāt get from a good steak. Itās whey protein so derived from milk. The biggest benefit is just convenience.
I donāt use it anymore. But he says heās struggling to eat as much as he needs. Thatās why I suggested weigh isolate
These views are outdated. I ate a fuck ton and just got fat. I used to take mass gainers and everything. I saw significant results when I trained more intensely and reduced the frequency.
Hmmmmm, interestingš§.
People are more likely to overtrain or undertrain than to under eat. Muscles grow outside of the gym especially when youāre sleeping. So if you donāt allow them sufficient rest time to grow, then you start to get weaker. Also remember that your muscles can still grow even in a slight calorie deficit. Not ideal but itās possible. So it wouldnāt make sense for overeating to be the key. The reason itās a common belief is because people are looking at bodybuilders on steroids and how they train. That doesnāt apply to natural lifters.
Everybody is different I guess. I just know that I need to eat a shit load of food in order to put on weight. I'm an ectomorph.
Growing muscle and gaining weight are not always the same thing. You donāt have to gain weight to grow muscle.
Roids
Donāt hate on my king
Not hating, but everyone is on roids here.
Do you have evidence for this belief?
Itās not a belief.
You can watch a documentary about lance armstrong, or as I can remember, Icarus was a good one.
At the end of the day there are ways you can get around doping.
Havenāt watched that. How did lance get around it?
He stored his blood, and transfused it prior to his competition.
He also used many other agents to mask banned substances in his body. Like showing prescription medication.