Seed oil questions

I’m trying to get some education about seed oils, but not finding any joy. Does this sound right?: There’s nothing inherently unhealthy with the seeds or their oil. Eating organically grown seeds and cold pressed oil from them is healthy. Issues arise from the way seed plants are grown and processed in mass production. The main problems (health wise) being 1) the use of glycophosphates and other chemicals used to grow the plants, and 2) the chemicals used to extract the oil from the seeds.

Any authoritative/official types sites I’ve checked avoid both of these issues.

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Seed oils are bad full stop, try to remove from your diet.

Yes, I get that. Why? Are the seeds to be avoided also? Are the oils bad due to the chemicals? Or are oils themselves bad for you?

They are not meant for human consumption. It was previously used as engine oil. Your body has problems breaking them down and they are linked to the obesity problem.

I came to the same conclusion as you.

Some people say that the ratio of omega 3 to omega 6 in western diets is also an issue when consuming too many seed oils.

Every thing in moderation....

your body will tell you if you listen

it’s encouraging that you are not a blind trend follower. the trends are always based on a kernel of truth, but are never complete. keep going.

Part of the problem figuring this out is the anti seed oil crowd is mostly controlled opposition. Omega 3/6 ratios is only part of the problem and maybe not as big of a deal generally, though it makes more of a difference for some people. So, that aspect seems to be more individual; some people are more efficient or capable of not having adverse reactions to “poor” ratios.

Digging a little deeper perhaps reveals the major culprit, though almost nobody, and certainly nobody prominent, is talking about the likely main cause of damage from seed oils:

High PUFAs in seed oils. It seems a cop out to say, well PUFAs cause inflammation.

Why?

While mechanisms are usually very difficult to discover, it turns out we have a good idea why in this case.

What damaging components do we know form in the metabolic pathway of PUFAs?

Malondialdehyde!

Aldehydes are very damaging to our bodies and malondialdehyde is one of the worst culprits; damages the aldehyde dehydrogenase [ALDH] enzymes and aldehyde oxidases that detox this terrible chemical causing it to build up in our system along with many other toxins that use these enzymes that are now dysfunctional creating a snowballing loop of suffering.

Additionally, keep in mind there are three tried and true ways to consistently create obesity and chronic disease in lab animals: high fat diet, high fructose diet or low protein diet. Or a combo. Definitely something to consider when deciding whether or not to eat added fats or sugars.

Go read John Ioannidis’ 2005 essay, “Why Most Published Research Findings Are False”

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1182327/

If you think he is right, and most of what you have been taught is based on this flawed research, that means 90% of what you think you know is a lie. You’re going to make a lot of mistakes based on this information. Even if you think he is wrong, how much of the research do you trust?

If you want to go down the deepest nutritional rabbit hole and learn from a pioneer, go look at Dr. Garrett Smith’s work — aka the Nutrition Detective — on toxic bile theory. Whereas most “experts” are around 10% signal and 90% noise, he’s the opposite: 90% signal. There isn’t anyone who is a close second; he’s on another level. And if you disagree, let’s have it; give us some signal so we can pierce through all these lies and get healthier.

He’s on mainly Twitter and YouTube and rumble currently and his website nutitiondetective.com. It’ll be worth your time and effort. And let’s purple and orange pill him.

I’ve been studying and trying to figure this all out for over 30 years now for whatever that’s worth. I’ve tried almost every diet out there at some point in my life. His is the only approach that I’ve found that works long term.

Thanks for sending such a detailed reply! Will definitely explore the two links you provided. Would like to zap you but see you don’t have a zap address configured.

fyi - there was a typo in the nutrition detective link (missing the “r”). Should be https://nutritiondetective.com

You are welcome! I hope you find the info helpful. I appreciate the zap thought. I guess I need to take more orange and purple pills myself😆 I had a suggestion to try the minibits wallet cuz it’s no KYC for now. I haven’t even tried lightning yet. Gotta get on it. Thanks for catching the typo

I remember reading an article some years back about the impact of different oils on telomeres. Olive oil had a lengthening impact but many other oils didn’t and some even shortened them. Telomeres impact cellular health. The longer the telomeres the better your health. So it may not be just an issue with them being non-organic/chemically processed, though that won’t help our health either.

Hope this helps 💜

If you can use mechanical, manual press to squeeze fat out of any plant - you can most likely eat it, if you can’t - you definely can’t. That’s my rule of thumb, although anyways I stick to animal fats.