Which relays should be the default for the Global feed on Amethyst?

Right now we have:

- wss://nostrelites.org

- wss://nostr.wine

They should only have quality content so that users don't see a dick pick as soon as they log into other app. :)

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the best option since there is no global is to rename the feed from Global to Firehose and the default is no relays at all. the user needs to explicitly put a relay there for it to load stuff

Mines paid so that would help 😂

I've been on Nostr for a few months now and global is still too much for me. I can only take a few minutes max on it. I also can't use it in public as it's too explicit and unpredictable.

Surprisingly enough, global has been tame for me. Mostly asian language posts, but nothing offensive.

Well, visually anyway. I have no idea what they are writing.

Just whip up your own relays and filter keywords and hashtags so NSFW things don't ever show.

Everyone's feed is clean until they learn tomuddy it up?

We don't run relays on purpose. It's too centralizing of an incentive.

Only if those choices to do so are made...

You could set up 3 relays for amethyst that filter keywords that keep all new folks feeds clean, then just leave them alone to do their job.

Corruption is a CHOICE.

Corruption of a person is indeed a choice. Corruption of a system is a matter of incentives.

why not use nip66 and find a relay thats in their country or something.. or search for wot relays.. etc. hardcoding it, prob gonna be a bad time for those relay operators.

Because historically relays self-certifying to be good hasn't worked out. :(

People love to break stuff, like by creating a new relay full of dick pick posts and publishing info that looks good.

thats not how nip66 works. you follow the right monitors that you, believe in... type thing. a monitor can publish info about as many relays as it wants, and thats convenient because you can decide if it is a good match for you.

Right, but new users don't trust anyone yet. We can't make them decide on a monitor.

why would be deciding on a relay worse than deciding on a monitor?

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a single monitor, could be given to a fren, and have the tags for each type of relay.. and populate choice list and even geoloc, stats! it would be amazing. i will not be onboarding frens to the firehose anylonger

Point taken

to see it in action or to get hyped up, check out next.nostr.watch , monitors, find monitorlizard or any other monitor, select box, then back to relays.

its cool from many perspectives but as a systems nerd i am loving having monitors that can ping and report results, like, hey youre down on the east coast or etc 😁 people pay big bucks for distributed monitoring like this and its just one tiny aspect of why nip66 is 🔥

So you wanna moderate content on a platform that you promote as descentralized and free?

How about nostr.bitcoiner.social

Wouldn't a "Global" feed try to combine as many relays as possible, eliminating duplicates, of course, kinda like those blaster relays? I know there is truly no global, but could we try to approximate it? Or would this eat up to much bandwidth? (Incidentally, I rarely go on "Global" myself).

To be honest, it annoys me that nostr.wine appears in Global regardless of whether it's turned on in the settings or not. As soon as nostr.wine is in my relay list, it immediately appears in Global, and even if Global for nostr.wine is disabled in the settings, it will still be in Global.

Not nostr.wine because you have to pay for it. Let us users decide which relays to use and for what purpose.